Yup so far things arent looking great. But also itās worth noting that the two available writeups so far have been by people who didnt really like the p1 either. And in my opinion both totally mischaracterize the sound of the p1. These reviews are useful but Iām more interested to see what Z has to say, since I know he loves the p1 as much as I do.
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As ears are different, I find it important to liste to the review of those you share āearsā with, those who like what you like.
So I completely agree, you should wait for Z to review it, as you might like the same IEMs. Antdroid has liked/disliked IEMs in the past where I agree with himā¦ But I also really look forward to Z ranting about these - good or bad 
Hopefully something will be posted in the next few days, since I think heāll want to post before the massdrop campaign ends. Unless he really hates it. Then maybe heāll let it pass by. 
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Iām a little confused by this review. The star ratings up front are very positive, but then he really seems to like them with most of the test music. The description of the sound he provides is very appealing to me, and kind of what i expected/hoped for: excellent clarity and resolution, with good bass this time around. Glad also that he mentioned the difference the foams make. Ive always steered clear of silicon tips on the p1 for the same reason. Foams fix the harshness of the p1 and sounds like thats also true for p2. I think this was all around a very hopeful review.
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From the review it seems OK but questionable at the price, wait on the Tape Pro I got from it.
P2 the ālittle guy insideā set lol
Using Crinacleās graphing tool with the new P2 added compared to P1, that 8k peek is alnost +10db. Definitely sticking to the P1 now with EQāed bass boost.
If youāve tried the Tin T2 and did not find then overly sharp them I doubt the P2 will be an issue. I posted the graphs from Crin earlier in the thread and they both have the same peak. Itās an artifact if his measurement rig.
Edit: also if you like the P1 tuning then you may NOT like the Tape. I find them to be shouty and hollow sounding. They are detailed and overall a good quality set, but the tuning is TRASH for my tastes.
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I think the star ratings where pretty much lined up with what he said. Good bass but not crazy amounts or anything (3 star), great mids with great clarity and vocals (4 star because nothing is perfect), and ok but slightly inconsistent treble (2 star). If zeoz likes them Iām more than likely going to get them when they pop up on Amazon with prime shipping.
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100% agree about the tapes. I also find it very offputing that that the bass driver detail is so much worse than the treble. Sounds so disjointed.
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Finaly a positive review for the P2.
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My P2 is scheduled to arrive on Tuesday. Which doesnt bode well for my productivity on Wednesday.
Iām listening to p1 balanced right now with some bass boost and hot dang. This already sounds like its worth more than 300 bucks. I cant wait to hear what p2 does.
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Always my thoughts on that set tooā¦P2 better be packing some John Wick skillz to walk into the $300 club lol.
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P2 has been delivered. Impressions coming later.
On a side note. Is zeos just not gonna review these? Only a few hours left on the massdrop. I figured he would get in before it ended
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I hope he reviews them at some point. My guess as to why he hasnāt yet is the move and all that. Iām pretty sure he hasnāt reviewed any IEM in the new house. Hell, I donāt think heās had an IEM in ANY video at the new house. So even if he has them, he just hasnāt gotten around to unpacking his IEMs yet.
I also got both P1 and tapes. With my tapes the V-shape tuning is destroying natural recordings of vocal and some other instruments that donāt produce a lot of bass - like violin - their energy are pushed to the higher part, making them feel sharp. I want to describe those sounds as almost blades shining in the darkness, which scares me sometimesā¦ I wouldnāt recommend them for genres like ACG, rock, pop, many natural recordings, and almost anything with vocal, unless you just want that details and donāt mind the tuning.
However, there is one genre I found it working extremely WELL - which is electronic music. I donāt have much of those in my library and about 70% of what I listen to are OSTs from movies and anime. P1 dominates my library, while there is only a few tracks from Hans Zimmer, such as Blade Runner 2049 OST, where tapes can somewhat touch the level of P1 to my ears.
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Update on the Shuoer Tape Pro which just released:
BGGAR uploaded his review for the Tape Pro, and it seems the tuning problems have been fixed. With that, tape pro will probably be a very good set.
BTW BGGAR is a good and kind of special reviewer, if your library is similar to his, just buy what he told you to buy, you wonāt regret. Unfortunately, my library is far far away from his and his review is not as useful for me (although many aspects do transfer well).
Anyway after reading several English, Chinese and Japanese reviews out there with tin hifi p2, I am 90% sure that every single buck increased on p2ās price tag will worth it and more (at least for my library and what I care the most with IEMs) - although certainly it doesnāt convince BGGAR. With my guess on Zās taste, he will probably also love p2, though his day probably wonāt be ruined by p2 with its price tag and an already high expectation due to p1 - but I guess he will still be quite excited, that will be a fun video to watch.
I have already ordered the p2s, looking forward to hear them. From some reviews it seems BTR5 is just enough to push them to a good level but more power is needed to get everything out of them (especially the soundstage and dynamics), for home usage I will probably need to buy a new desktop amp for itā¦
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Hello @Carl_T , what types of music do you tend to prefer? I have bought iems based on BGGAR reviews with great results although my library is much broader than the one he uses to review. Just curious and look forward to your thoughts on the P2.
I can confirm that p2 shines with more power. stage gets bigger and the detail, especially in the mids gets much better. I can also confirm that the rumors are true about the tuning. They departed from the neutrality of p1 (which is a mistake, I think) and the treble can be painful or just incorrect sounding at times. for example, acid basslines just sound terrible. there is also a bit more of a shoutiness in the upper mids ala T4. More power helps these issues but not completely. foams are a must, and I think comply tips do the best of absorbing some of that super high knifeās-edge stuff. I also stuffed the complys with some acoustic foam and now they the sound much more normal tuning wise.
Now having said all that negative stuff, these are a rather impressive set. Theyāre like p1 in detail and imaging but with a much bigger stage. and the bass is kind of impressive af. again not neutral, at all. The bass means business. its big thick, wide, and airy all at once. Really sounds like an over-ear bass. Super tight and snappy but also excels at boomy buttery but fast subs.
Mids get a little bit swallowed up at times, since the bass and treble are so much more pronounced. Which I think ruins the benefit of a single driver: the cohesiveness. the bass mids and treble all sound a little bit too distinct, which at times make these sound like a multi driver set with very clear crossovers (cough shuoer tape) . The mids otherwise are very airy, and they sound a little too spacy sometimes. they lack the natural timbre of the p1.
the treble is very niceā¦ when its behaving. you get the same detail as the p1, but they have a weird new problem. the treble doesnāt have the same spatial depth as the bass and mids do, so everything sounds weirdly spatially distorted (not necessarily bad sounding, but not the way real sound works - so unnatural.) And then high percussion sounds a little too intense on some tracks. Like it gets hard to pay attention to the guitarist because theres a dude absolutely shredding on the triangle, and he standing right next to you. you can still hear everything (separation is good) but treble steals the spotlight because of itās perceived proximity compared to the bass and mids. Foams and dampening foam do help here.
These are a weird but very interesting set. If you like neutrality or you hate treble, maybe these arent for you. if love the tuning of the p1, these prob arent your holy grail. but if you loved the detail and imaging of the p1 and wanted a set that has a bigger stage and much more v-shaped signature. you might want to check this out.
I know I sound critical of this set, but I really do like them. theyāre just not exactly what I had hoped for. But my overall assessment is that these are that itās not quite worth the price. But thatās only because it took me a few weeks of tip rolling and modding to get these sounding normal. And for this price, they shouldnāt make work that hard. The p1 is much more successful, cohesive, product. and I would recommend p1 far more readily than the p2.
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