technically yes, though the headphone will gain more in performance from better equipment
Edition is the only one that can come in 600 ohms, edition has a straight cable pro has a coiled cable, stay away from black edition if buying 250 ohms the signatures different
windows volume at 100%, amp low gain at 0% slowly turn the volume knob till its reasonably loud if it doesn’t get loud enough return to 0% place into high gain and again turn the volume knob
Well… yea there is but its more subjective and different company such as sennheiser 560s
@Falenkor hi, regarding the tygr 300 r. i feel on songs were the bass is present they get a bit “distorted” can’t describe it. do you think it’s faulty or because the liquid spark " too much for them"?. or are they normal and known to do that.
@Falenkor I’ve been looking for a dac to go with the liquid spark. Cause i think what’s causing the distortion is my motherboards dac. It’s an asrock b365m.
So I’ve been eyeing (fx audio dac-x6) but is it good with liquid spark?
Grab a topping d10 or e30 those clean up really nice and compliment the spark
Less you want to complete the stack of which spark has a dac its just the liquid spark dac from monoprice.
2 Akg k702, both lost signal in right earcup, what a shame, i found the sound quality to be godly. Probably shitty china soldering.
What would be a good replacement that has similar sound characteristics for comp fps.
To anyone having my problem. Or just curious what happend.
I had a friend who had shp9500, plugged it into my liquid spark, cranked all the way. And guess what. It didn’t distort. So it’s not my dac or amp. It’s the tygr what a shame as i wanted to get them soooo bad and when i did they were faulty. Will return them and maybe get a x2hr or hd 560s.
When i crank the volume on LS tygrs have almost like an electric/distortion sound.
For future reference and to anybody else, please never do this. Cranking the amp on low impedance headphones poses very serious risks to your ears and can very well completely blow the headphones.
You should never need 100% of the amps, if you do then theres a problem. Tygr needs maybe 60% of the volume knob on the spark and that on my end is heavily blaringly loud. Make sure that window’s is maxed out and any enhancements within are off then turn up the amp to a comfortable or relatively loud volume.
Did you buy third party? Regardless id reach out about the issue and have it resolved
i bought them from beyerdynamic’s amazon.us page.
and one thing i will add. i dont NEED them to be on high volume it’s just even when playing games, and the volume knob is on around 12-1 o’clock and let’s say a grenade gets blown it will distort the sound.
my point with the shp9500 is to eliminate the possibility of the amp or dac being the issue.
I only made the remark due to wording and having quite alot of people do this where they crank the amp and use windows as a volume. By no means was that meant in an insultive way.
Ive had a t1 do this actually when i got a pair of the 3rd gen initially i had to have it replaced. Thats bothersome. Granted i barely ever have issues with beyer but seems theres a lemon from time to time
I do hope you get that sorted out though, tygrs a very good headphone
been using 560s for about 9 hours.
and do i like them? hell yeah!. in gaming i thought the dt 990 was cheating, 560s this is straight up unfair.
(to me) they have bigger soundstage than the dt 990 and the tygr.
i thought it was going to lack bass but thankfully not that much. everything sounds CLEAR. every sound you know where its coming from EXACTLY. footsteps, gunshots musical instruments, you name it.
used it in single player games too. phenomenal. comfort is 8/10 if it weren’t for the clamping it would be 10/10. but i imagine it will loosen with time.
not an audiophile but trying to help anyone in the same boat as i am.
games used: apex legends, rainbow six siege, valorant, for honor, silent hill 2-3, red dead 2.
Bought a beyer dt880 600 ohm, I have mixed feelings about it.
The soundstage smaller than the k702 and its clear, imaging spot on, they sound a bit muddy or muffled in some aspects.
What kills it for me, when i shoot a weapon this headphone shrieks in my ear and cant put my finger on it.
Actually same partial issue with the Sundara, the gunshots are in my ear and are too harsh.
Using both with a dx3pro+ rated at 250mw @300ohm dont think power was a issue.
The K702 felt smooth like a soft whisper and a lot cleaner, gunshots almost felt mellowed but without taking out sound cues like footsteps etc.
I feel so betrayed by the design flaw of the akg k series, almost makes me want to go back and grab a soldering iron.
would never call them particularly “muddy” but rather dampened is the word when it comes to them, beyer uses quite a lot of dampening to keep the highs from practically murdering your ears for the most part but in result it creates their respective sound, through some EQ it has been reported you can clear them up a bit more though so that may be encouraged.
Sounds like you may be treble sensitive then, that’s the increased treble… the 880 out of the 3 in that lineup has the least amount in terms of brightness
sounds like the 880 isn’t a good fit for you same with sundara in this regard… I would encourage perhaps trying something such as Tygr 300r if you want beyer, 560s or 58x if you want sennheiser though 560s is the brighter one so you may have some better result with the 58, k702 over there is alright if you feel this is more comfortable to you then stick to it.
If its not particularly bad you can also dial back the highs of the 880… the 250 ohm to my ear is actually brighter than 600 ohm and is quite much imo.
Ive been thinking about this constantly, why are the K702’s so clear, also they are high on treble, different spikes. Maybe calling the 880’s muddy is incorrect, cluttered maybe is more adequate, everything was there but it hits you all at once, is this a soundstage thing?
Played a bit with the eq both seemed to respond well to it, dont think im sensitive to treble. The clarity of the 702 is just impressive its hard to go back to something else. I think a fit comparison would be going back to a 60hz monitor, I could do it but I wont be happy about it.
Actually was looking at the 560s it looks like the overall FR looks the same as the k702 but to an extent so does the 880 FR. I am surprised there is such a big difference in the sound produced. Probably time to bite the bullet and grab a soldering iron.
Ah a note of praise the comfort of the dt880 was just even better the k702, definitely didnt expect that.
Less dampening, breathes more, more emphasis in the mids and highs, large stage.
Things will appear closer with less stage yes, since 880 is smaller it will be rather apparent. That isnt to say 880 is bad on separation its just not a huge soundstage as 702 is pretty damn big
This is why we say graphs tell you only so much… the headphone presents sound quite differently.
Seems like your pretty sold on 702, at this point i would say stick to what you like here.
For me i veered away from 880 as i hated the feel of the dampening myself… 990 does better but its sharp as hell so 1990 and t1 were my best bets and t1 for me was exactly what i wanted
Did you ever try the r70x? at this point just curious since they AT cans come highly recommended for gaming and graphs look neutral.
From images the earcup depth looks kinda small.
Ah also Crinnacle recommended this can in his gaming headphones video.
hmm, I am not sure which graph you are looking at but those are not neutral. They have a recession in the lower bass going into the mid bass however the rest of it is fairly in the neutral zone… if your searching for neutrality your typically better off with a sennheiser or shure early on. The r70x definitely isn’t going to offer that super transparent sound… imaging and soundstage is around the average and the weight of the headphone itself is extremely light while being comfortable… personally I despise the 3d wing system but for some it may be a very good option. The r70x is pretty much right in line with the AD like the 1000x however r70x definitely has a reference grade tone to it while the AD series is more centralized in the mids and highs where they are usually raised… so it depends on what your looking for… if your after a reference neutral headphone without the bass… r70x will fit but if your after a mids and highs headphone then the AD series will come into play there alongside some other headphones.
They fit me just fine, I have an ad2000x on the wall. Definitely wouldn’t deem them to be too small… granted not as large as the k7 series from akg. The r70x are a more snug fit and press on my ears slightly, top that off with they aren’t very deep sets of cans either.
I don’t bother looking at his recommendations anymore they are barely on point with many aspects and I find I extremely disagree with him in a many case. I lost all interest when he started claiming that headphone choice doesn’t matter or more so that all you need is just a dongle dac(which sounds like shit on many headphones)