šŸ”¶ Vokyl Erupts

I got mine in the mail a few days ago and was waiting for my Schiit Hel to come in since my current IEM amp is no wheres near powerful enough to get them to sound right. I got these to replace my current headset since I donā€™t have a standalone studio mic and I needed something that had a mic. These sound much better than my previous headset and have amazing imaging but for some reason the mic isnā€™t working. I am using the splitter that came in the box with the Hel and for some reason the mic isnā€™t working. Instead of getting audio through the mic my system audio gets pumped through the mic channel on my computer and instead of other people hearing what I am saying they just hear themselves alongside whatever I am playing on my computer. When I use the same splitter and instead the mic in on my motherboard a similar thing happens. If anyone can help me find a solution that would be great, currently the only thing that I can think of is the weird pinout of these headphones just doesnā€™t work with the included splitter on the Hel and instead I would need to find a different one. that uses a matching pinout.

Iā€™m no expert, but it shouldnā€™t have anything to do with the cable pinout in the Erupts. I e used a standard splitter with them on my Heresy and G6 and didnā€™t have any issues. Have you checked your audio settings on your PC. Your input and output should be set to the Hel. Other than that, I donā€™t know much about troubleshooting it, but it sounds much more like a setting and/or driver issue than anything to do with the Erupts or splitter.

I just got a new splitter in the mail today and that appears to have fixed the problem. I would highly recommend these headphones to anyone looking for an upgrade.

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Finally was able to sit with these for a few days now, buddy of mine took the plunge and bought them after seeing a review. Got to sayā€¦ not impressed but letā€™s go a bit into this one as I wanted to try this for myself. Gaming headsets just in general have bad raps and anything with the label of ā€œgamingā€ is met with a bit of a bad rap. The fact the people made JDS labs stuff and the like needless to say had me having my hopes up a bit that this one would be different.

Note this is my opinion and viewpoint and should be taken as subjective. If you disagree that is your right to do so and form your own opinion. This will be a fairly negative review but I try to be fair unless something is just really terrible.

Claims: studio grade sound in a gaming headset thats made in america. The first headphone to have alluminum magnesium drivers with duel microphones. Semi open back, big soundstage, compatible with all systems, detachable cables for balance, and 50mm drivers. Ear pads alter the signature and you will hear the details. perforated pads offer better soundstage while solid pads offer better bass. Natural crisp sound. Stating its going to sound better than other gaming headsets. For everything and audiophile grade not just gaming.

Pricepoint: $400

Cables Comfort and Build quality: Out the box the cable is a bit sproing-y and the microphone made me laugh as itā€™s bouncy as hell and thin and just does not inspire confidence in quality. Comfort levels are decent for the most part and outside the box the pads are relatively thick and soft enough to have good comfort and they do offer a good seal. Build is weighty with machined parts and looks as though itā€™s built quite well with a fairly nice headband. Overall here? outside of the ridiculously awful cable this is pretty good. Highly recommended finding a seperate duel sided 2.5mm microphone replacement and I will get into mic quality in a minute. Even the little box on the microphone just feels very cheap. two pads came with itā€¦ perforated and standard solids. Easy to pad change on this one per the usual methods as long as they are big enough. Drivers are angled pads are not. No real rattling or any issues with noises from creaking in the builds or pads moving. Little bit weighty for a headphone though the weights distributed well.

Pads and sound signature: not memory foam. decently thick and comfortable enough to cover my ear. Sound between pads:

Perforated: Relatively bass lacking with decent sub bass and extension potentially close to neutral and sounds a little recessed. lows donā€™t seem to bleed into the mids and the mids appear to be decently clean and forward. Highs appear dialed back or slightly under neutral and are rolled off. Lacking seperation and has some melding in the sound which was quickly noticeable for me. The headphone with these pads sounds relatively Dark and as though its lacking in detail and wasnā€™t very deep sounding. Quite honestly, this sounds pretty bad if you ask me. Still some seperation but still unnatural sounding in a great many cases.

Standard Pads: Tons of bass and to the point of being boomy with extreme rumble. Bass actually melds together and can cause the headphone to actually shake. Itā€™s as though you took the perforations lacking bass and cranked that bass to 11. It overkills the rest of the mix. Everything sounds very muddy with these pads. mids are now pushed back sounding relatively recessed but still there. Everything about these pads just sounds off and unnatural. Highs are rolled off as well. Melding in this pad is even worse bass is far too much to the point of giving me a headache. Very obvious that perforated pads sounded better than these solids as these are just a disaster. When the bass isnā€™t blowing your ears out honestly the sound isnā€™t too bad with these pads.

Soundstage: Claiming this has massive soundstage? eh? no. Sundara actually has more soundstage here. This has a little more soundstage than the sennheisers 600 series and is around average. Solid pads actually make itā€™s staging around the same as the 58x to my hearing. Itā€™s just not very large and with perf pads it doesnā€™t have that depth. X2HR fidelios have more width and sundara just naturally has a larger stage in general. Calling it massive when your in the same bracket as an akg k7 series is very inaccurate and misleading. You can say ā€œwell for gamers headsets its massive-ā€ I will stop you thereā€¦ Tygrs soundstage is far larger in this regard with fantastic seperation and laser accurate imaging and its a gamers headphone. Is it a good size staging? yeah but massive? no.

After getting very irritated I recalled people mentioned switching the pads and the starting pads are awfulā€¦ I can definitely confirm my opinion that these pads are downright horrid for this headphone. All the claims they made are kind of all over the place and definitely subjectiveā€¦ lack of detail, lack of seperation, solid pads are cancer despite ultra bass. I will get into the pad swap in a moment.

Gaming: solid pads? Donā€™t bother less you want a bass cannon that just kills everything in sound. Perforations? not too bad for things such as footstepsā€¦ but still the sound is just not quiteā€¦ right. While I can hear footsteps and the like I would have expected more at the $400 price tag considering even the shp9500 is better at footstep retrieval than this and potentailly the MH751. Extremely average detail retrieval and I found nothing particularly ā€œspecialā€ about this headset in gaming other than I wrote off the solid pads as a ā€œneeds to be tossed into a furnaceā€ .

Amps: some minor differences from bouncing between amps. Asgard 3 allowed a bit better spatial recreation and seemed to offer better seperation of sound. Liquid spark offered a bit more darkness and more rolled off in the treble alongside more warmth. Magni seemed to emphasize more on the mids.IFI zen dac definitely made it sound warmer yet darker. all of these changes were very marginal however and really didnā€™t go well for a drastic improvement to the sound overall.

Microphone: this thing sounds awful. The in line secondary mic sounds better than the boom mic and even than it sounds bad. Quite a few gaming headsets sound better than this. Itā€™s a joke as is the cable.

Is the stock version of this headphone worth the money? No it is not. The fact is its a gaming headset at $400 and at this price tag you can easily just go grab a shp9500 modify it costing you maybe around $170 and it not only will perform better but you will have multiple pads that sound better with varied signatures, good seperation, good enough detail, and a better mic due to v-moda boom pro. Well what about gaming headsets. Well in this price margin it had better damn well be one of the best right? Well itā€™s not. This doesnā€™t even remotely compete with the mh751 for competitive not even close as for casual? While it for sure beats the mobius cause that one is a bundle of issues in its own right other headsets such as hyperxā€™s lineup or steel series can beat this things head in except for soundstageā€¦ which is where an astro a40 or PC37x will give this headset a run for it and if you wanted bass well gsp500 over there is also semi open backed offering similar results better sound good bass better mic and cheaper.

Alright so pad swap time. So I swapped over to some of my dekonis. I switched over to the recommended fenestrated pads for my beyers thinking perhaps this will fix it as I appreciate these pads more anyway they are more comfortable, memory foam, more perforations, just generally better. This brings the price on this headset actually to around $470 + Tax so lets even it up to around $500 if you include shipping costs and tax.

Sound is now cleaner, more clarity, a lot more detail, seperation is still lacking, mids are still forward, bass seems a bit more prevalent still marginal, highs are now properly in the mix with a small amount of peak to them adding a small touch of sparkle. Sound has more naturalism to it. In gaming I was able to pinpoint sounds better. Footsteps were now even more prevalent better than some other headphones. Overall sound is a hell of a lot better. Overall sound signature seems veryā€¦ I want to say bright or rather a neutral bright. Sound appears as though itā€™s more accurate to the description of the headphone claims made by the company. Soundstage is still not massive itā€™s just relatively wide yet average with the dekonis itā€™s ever so slightly wider. Comparing yourself to gaming headsets is already setting the expectations extremely low but this has issues even competiting with some of those in some cases.

Final notes: This headset is not remotely worth $400. Maybe just maybe around $100 - $150 + the added cost of a pad swap(around $70) and granted I say the same about the mobius / orbit because they also are not worth their own price tag. The mic is awful, the cable is awful, pads out the box are just horrendously bad for the sound signature and should be taken back to be redesigned, the sound stock is just all over the place and not by any means should be labelled as ā€œaudiophileā€ grade if anything this is slightly above average gamer grade material. Build quality is something special in this regard and soundstage is larger than -most- gaming headsets due to over 90% of gaming headsets being a closed back headset. I expected a hell a lot more for $400 and even more when you have to change the pads because at $500 your literally competing with headphones such as Aeons, Anandas, 1990s, T1, Elegia, among a ton of others. In itā€™s price bracket this thing just does not properly compete where it needs to even for gaming standards despite those standards being very low.

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I wanted to add that due to the overall changes while sitting here with the dekoni pads still on itā€¦ the signature definitely appears neutral brightā€¦ at this point and considering its price tag I would sooner tell someone to try to find a DT 1990 at around $400-$450 as they are common to be seen from time to time and attach a modmic Uni or USB to it placing it in the same general price range and giving you the same two pad changes except entirely better especially for gaming. You stand to gain more from even the DT 880 in this regardā€¦ $200 maximum, mod it detachable, attach v moda for around $30, starts with neutral bright signatureā€¦ replace the pads with a suede or leather and now you have your bass backā€¦ include a warm sounding amp or tubes and your set.

In the case of preferring the more dark sound of this headsetā€¦ find yourself the Tygr 300r and attach a modmic to it or mod it detachable with a v-moda. Otherwise pick up a nighthawk carbon and do the same for the microphone. You will get one hell of a better sound

Further editory noteā€¦ So upon digging through hereā€¦ I read a recent comment about switching to velours for the soundstage. Well sure enough, velours really open that soundstage up quite a bit(dekoni elite velours btw same size for beyers.) Highs are now even brighter with some hints of sibilance if paired to the wrong amp. Sound is stillā€¦ offā€¦ as though veiled or muddy but still remaining closer to neutral. Soundstage imaging and seperation improved with the switch to velours by a good margin but overall not recommended due to the brightness. Perforated suedes may be the best option in this regard as they would be the middle ground.

At this point with all the pad swapsā€¦ Hell I would rather go pick up the Harmonicdyne Helios.

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Glad you were able to get some time with them @Falenkor and share your thoughts. I sold mine since I last posted in this thread. I think my experience was a little different in that I got mine near the beginning of my audiophile journey. After having used the 9500s and Arctis 7 wireless so long, the difference with the Erupts was so refreshing lol. I wanted them to live up to the hype so much and I hate that theyā€™re landing like they areā€“mostly because I can tell how much of a passion product itā€™s been for the Vokyl/JDS Labs folks and Iā€™m sure theyā€™re not pleased with the reception. Iā€™d be so interested in what they could put out if they didnā€™t have the time and financial constraints of a backer project. For example, their original mic design looked awesome. No Theme Reviews has put up a handful of videos on them the past two weeks and I appreciate how thorough he is in his critiques. As I got to try out more gear, though, I definitely started to understand the shortcomings. For me, I just liked the TYGRs so damn much and felt conflicted by the discrepancy given the sticker price differences. Granted, I paid almost the same for the Vokyls as I did the TYGRs, so I didnā€™t have a massive investment in them and I was able to recover most of it. I can see the potential with the cans though. Theyā€™re built beautifully and feel like theyā€™re worth the price tag. Seriously, even as I was packing them up to sell, I just hated letting go of that cup finish. I really wish Vokyl would just come out and say that the cables and pads suck, and own it with a rationale. But Iā€™m no marketing/PR expert. Iā€™m not convinced theyā€™re going to move much product at the $400 price point, so Vokyl is going to have to do some pivoting soon to survive.

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Being completely honest I really wanted to like these a lot. They look nice outside that ridiculous cable mic.

I could see people giving absolute rave reviews by this sort of viewpoint or in zeosā€™s case like he has said when he reviews a headphone he tunes out any other headphone and his world becomes centered around that one particular headphone. Can lead to wellā€¦ its not bad particularlyā€¦ so its good. instead of comparing it to wellā€¦ its just not worth the price point considering the competition. Considering all I heard over the silently changing the pads as well as the mic? thatā€™s shady as hell and very unfortunate. You would think if they planned to downgrade the product theyā€™d decrease the price as well tooā€¦

I donā€™t tend to really agree with no theme and he can be a real ass when it comes to people giving constructive criticism on his videos so I never bother to watch his videos. He also tends to gush pretty hard in some cases with makes me think he has a form of bias. As for vokyl and having a project without such restraints it would be interesting for sure.

Bit of a lesson I had to learn with this hobby. That price tag definitely does not dictate the quality your going to get. Several headphones prove that pretty easily such as kph30i or shp9500. Hell even dt 880 over there has proven time and time again so far that even a cheap headphone can just come out swinging above the rest in certain qualities. Tygr is beyond phenomenal at a price point thats hard to be beat I am quite surprised its priced at $200 and not more the sound I get out of those is one I would expect in the $300 - $400 range. I noticed the price gaps though even with amps and dacsā€¦ for instance dacs in the sub $200 sound incredibly similar and marginal differences however the jump to actually make a difference is from the $200 range straight to the $550+ range and from there an upgrade looks to be around $2,000 range and amps are no different really just seperate price brackets.

I have my doubts honestly, and itā€™s a shame. It could be a hell of a lot better that much is proven when you switch the pads aloneā€¦ you can also just go buy a duel sided 2.5mm boom mic thats far superior to the one that comes with that headset. Outside that extra tuning would need to be done to correct some of the sound issues such as that seperation problemā€¦ that was literally one of the biggest issues I found with it and it didnā€™t change regardless of pads outside of Velours yet was stlil bad. Soundstage if they want to claim its massive it needs some changes as well.

I do think itā€™s not remotely worth $400 however, if they go out there way to fix it up it could very well be worth that muchā€¦ it just needs more work

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welp finally got mine havenā€™t tried any new pads, donā€™t know how long the wait has been almost 2 years? Little disappointed but thatā€™s also because the hart audio cables I got arenā€™t working with them. The cables that came with do work thankfully but not sure if itā€™s a headphones issue or cable. Most likely cable since the original cable works. Took a couple pictures, when I emailed hart audio these were the recommended ones I should buy.

They do produce sound but only through the left side of the wire, whether I plug it in left or right side in the headphones. The specification for my vokyl was the one that should be balanced since it came without the microphone.

Other than that just kind of let down with the sound after waiting for so long, this is compared to what I currently have the SHP9500ā€™s. Note this is just after a couple hours of use and they do sound good with the stock cables just nothing blowing me away for the price paid and probably still have to pay to improve further.

Hmm, I like mine with the additionally bought ZMF perforated pads and better cables, but yet again, I donā€™t have other decent headphones to compare them to. Plus, I paid like 100$ on top of that just for import taxes. Damn, maybe we really paid too much for them, considering how many people currently are not satisfied :frowning:

I probably didnā€™t feel that I paid too much, because it was almost 2 years ago and Iā€™ve almost forgotten. Oh wellā€¦ I need more reviews or headphones to decide.

with the pad change itā€™s honestly very good just with seperation being the issue at that point as well as the cablingā€¦ there really doesnā€™t appear to be a good alternative fix to the microphone outside of a desktop mic or modmic. The price point is the biggest issue hereā€¦ at $400 + pads which adds around $70 itā€™s just not worth that asking price at all not when you consider itā€™s competitionā€¦ In general before that pad swap my shp9500 could wipe the floor with it and even after pad swap it still wasnā€™t a better sound than a lot of headphones I have sat with around the $250 - $300 range considering it becomes a more neutral bright signature your straight up trying to compete with dt 880 which is a well known used headphone for gaming totaling in at $320 if you use modmic wireless + $100 amp bring it to $420 and thats just going the max priceā€¦ there just isnā€™t a true competition here due to the pricepoint. Itā€™s extremely unfortunate too and I believe the main reason itā€™s so expensive is primarily due to the machined parts they have that stuff is not cheapā€¦ it appears that most of the budget went into the build quality and not making sure sound quality and wire mic/pad quality were there.

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Now Iā€™m wondering if theT60rp Argon with the same price will be a lot better than the Erupt, since these T60rp are the new hyped thing now.

Those are hyped now? Thought the argons have always been a hype train. My buddy owns the T50 RP argons and they are amazingā€¦ I have yet to sit with the T60 version but heard amazing things.

Yeah, sorry, I mean they are freshly reviewed by Zeos and seem to be very pleasant with almost no flaws for the price, where Erupts have many flaws for the same price. Both are built very well, but I need to find out are they on the same level in detail retrieval and sound representation.

I think we got you sorted with the headphone wiring / cable compatibility issue yeah? Get back to us if not!

PSA

Our HC-11 cable on the site is made for the Eruptsā€™ stock wiring. The weird CTIA standard they initially launched with. If you ask them to rewire the headphones, youā€™ll want a normal dual 2.5mm cable. In the Hart Audio Cables lineup, thatā€™s the HC-7. Both the HC-11 and HC-7 are balanced capable. Hope that helps a few folks.

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Hiya new here :wave:

Got my pair last week and been using it since, been using it with the stock vented pads so far and have mixed feelings about it. Itā€™s a lot more comfortable than my other pair of headphones and the clamping force seems to be just right for me. The mic sound quality seems to be decent according to friends in call, just a pity itā€™s a tad ugly + non detachable thoughā€¦ Iā€™m not sure whether I have to break in the headphones more but the mid range seem a little muffled at times so Iā€™m wondering whether swapping the pads would change it or not, also what does changing the cables do to sound quality? Iā€™m debating getting the dekoni pads rn but theyā€™re so expensive after shippingā€¦ $105 usd after shipping is almost $140 CAD rn :sob:

Thatā€™s a lot of money for pads, and as I have said, my pads that have a similar profile to those Dekoni pads donā€™t do anything substantial to the sound profile, they just give the sound a bit more air and space. Unless youā€™re reeeeally committed to these I wouldnā€™t bite that particular bullet.

I got these out again today for a fresh listen and was once again extremely unimpressed with what I heard. I need to stop being lazy and get these things up on ebay.

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Yeah if you are from hart audio then yes, just sent you the email with the tracking number. :slight_smile: Thanks again for the help

Yā€™all, my journey with the Erupts has been so up and down. These were basically my first ā€œaudiophileā€ headphones other than the SHP9500. I really liked them. I had bought the red version used. During this time when I liked them, I realized I wanted blue instead. So breaking even, I was able to sale the red for the blue. Then I had some time with other headphones like the HD6XX, HE-4XX, DT880, TYGR, and now Nighthawk Carbon. I quickly realized the Vokylā€™s shortcomings and sold it (again, breaking even, thankfully). So I experienced two different pairs before I decided I wasnā€™t going to keep them. But I sure do miss the feel of those beautifully milled cupsā€“the look and feel certainly meet the hype, though thatā€™s about it lol. And then I find a listing for another blue pair and the seller accepts my $125 offer. I was shocked. Theyā€™re definitely not even close to worth the $400 retail price, but theyā€™re worth a good bit more than $125 IMO. So I bought the Erupts again. And now Iā€™m really excited about the value proposition between what they bring and what I paid.

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I believe that some audiophile reviewers just expected out-of-the-box headphone true to their hype for the money. That means if they did cost a bit less $$$, they would probably still be hyped and hit above their price tag. Thing is, they are good, but they are just barely worth the full retail price currently even with Dekoni pads (for experienced people who have dozens of headphones). I saved some bucks since I bought them through Indiegogo anyway, so I donā€™t feel that much screwed up (I would have to pay customs taxes in all cases). So after all, maybe I could summarize all peopleā€™s positives and negatives with this: they are probably OK value for people who participated in the Indiegogo campaign, but not OK for future people. I think I may keep mine, but we will see. But yeah, for $125 its a bargain indeed, Iā€™m not sure Iā€™ll (if I do at all) sell them for so much less.

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Like I said in my own sit down review with them it feels like all the budget went into the actual build itself and not so much the sound or wiring.

hmm, $125 plus around $70 pads so what a given $200? Yeah I could see that, granted I would take a beyer over them any day of the week lol hell I would take the HarmonicDyne Helios over those but still for that price I can see it being feasible.

lol as long as your happy with it. I gave my buddy his copy back and he sold it few days back already. This headphone just does not sit well at itā€™s price tagā€¦ not even close.

what no review? Blasphemy