Timeless with a larger driver would be sweet (assuming that would give more slam & other benefits)
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I am struggling to make up my mind about wether I should sell the Timeless or Blessing 2 or keep both or buy the Variations.
- The Timeless is so far the best IEM I have heared without EQ
- However the Blessing 2 simply sounds better with EQ… but the need for EQ is a drawback in and of itself
- I think it is not unlikely that I will find the Variations even better than the Timeless without EQ (maybe even better than the Blessing 2 with EQ)… that way I wouldn’t have to make a decission and if I sell both, with the black friday deal for the Variations, I can effectively trade the Timeless and Blessing 2 for the Variations.
I really want to end the search, but this is bugging me.
Any thoughts? @mmkzero I would like to hear your opinion in particular, even tough you haven’t heared the Timeless, if I remember correctly
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The one that’s $50 lol
Pulled the trigger on Tin t3 plus . I have the o2 and i don’t like vocals on them especially male vocals . Reviewers said the the t3 plus is balanced and if we match graphs in 500hz we can see that’s a brilliant tuning .
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Keep the planar and trade your old moondrop in for the new one.
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Yeah, I‘ve not heard the Timeless yet. I‘m considering getting it as an addition, but since I got the Oracle recently that’s probably going to be on pause for now.
If you want, I wrote a small review of the Variations here. It‘s such a good set of IEMs.
You said that you like clarity, especially vocal clarity, detail, and a bit of fun, right? In that case I think the Variations is probably right for you. Very detailed set. I‘d describe it as „clean and lean“ sounding while maintaining musicality. The extension on both ends probably leads to that being the case; exceptional sub-bass boost on one end, sparkly and spacious treble on the other end.
I should also mention, where I found the B2 Dusk to sometimes be a little spicy in the treble and almost sibilant, I did not have that with the Variations even once.
Honestly, 442$ for the Variations is such an incredible deal. Absolute steal. You could probably get the Variations and sell the Blessing 2. I think the Timeless complements the Variations very well, for tracks that could use a bit more mid-bass.
I‘m in a similar spot actually, except the Oracle fills the spot of the Timeless for me.
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Thank you very much for the input. I went and read your review. Pretty much everything you say aligns with my expectation and I "autoeq"ed both the Blessing 2 and Timeless to the frequency response of the Variations and both times it just sounds great (which is only an indication, but a strong one).
Since I posted the question I went from “Let me just go for the Variations” to “the Timeless will may be worse, but it’s good enough”, now back to “I will miss out if I don’t try”. Honestly, I don’t think the gap between Timeless and Variations will be huge and probably not worth the markup, but on the other hand I could afford it… I guess I need to flip a coin.
Either way, thanks again for the input 
Btw.: I haven’t listened to the Oracle, but I actually don’t find the Timeless to be particulary warm, despite what the graph says. There may be a certain warm quality to it, but it’s either the treble energy or the planar that probably make it closer to the Variation than to the Blessing 2. Probably want to wait on @nymz opinion on that one.
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Timeless? Is that the iem custom officers love? 
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Is yours stuck in Customs? 
I don’t find the Oracle to be warm either. I‘d describe it as a neutral IEM with a bass boost, and a tastefully done one at that if you ask me. It has less Sub-bass but more mid-bass, which translates well for genres like rock and metal. That‘s also the reason why I think the Oracle compliments my Variations so well.
I think that between the Variations and the Timeless, both should cover pretty much every genre out there while also providing great resolution and detail.
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For Fun music listening forget about Timeless and the Oracle, buy Excalibur 
There’s literally bets on when ill receive it. It’s a meme by now
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When I tried both the Excalibur and Oracle, what made me choose the Oracle was mainly how the tuning was more balanced.
Bass Response was quite similar to my ears; the Excalibur had a bit more, but what threw me off was that small dip in the midrange. I also found the treble to be more emphasized. Now, some might like that, but whereas I‘d describe the Oracle as Neutral with bass boost, the Excalibur comes of as a neutral IEM that slowly borders on a mild V-shape. That mild V-shape also resulted in it sounding a bit less detailed to my ears.
But, one cannot go wrong with either the Oracle or Excalibur in my opinion. Both are excellent IEMs that punch above their asking price (much like the Variations).
And since @lilhm has the Timeless already, I‘d not recc either the Oracle or Excalibur, since they are so similar in frequency response to it:
When and if I get the Timeless, I‘m probably most interested in its technical capabilities.
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Damn, that sucks, sorry to hear that.
I hope you get your pair soon 
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Ok, I made up my mind, I guess: I was going to order the Variations, but realized that receiving the package will be a major headache around Christmas time, when I probably will be traveling a bit. So no Variations right now (maybe next sale).
I will try to sell the Blessing 2, but if I get a good offer, I might separate with the Timeless instead, even tough I’d rather keep that one.
Thanks again guys 
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*cough * EJ07m * cough *
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To be honest? I would feel weird spending over 500€ on an IEM. It is like paying its weight in gold.
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I totally agree with you. For me personally, I like dd, ba and est in an iem. But for me the cable is important to. I know it is controversial. But I like a gold component in the cable, which takes the edge of the high frequencies, makes the sound also fuller. It is personal opinion of course. I bought the Spear Labs Triton Zero with such a set up, changed the stock cable and ear tips. That squeezes the whole potential from that iem. It is a dream for me.
Again I would definitely suggest which sound signature you like most and take it from there.
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Just saw this thread and want to add a different perspective or at least suggest some other IEMs to be of consideration. I personally don’t look at graphs anymore since I’ve been proven wrong so many times on IEMs I wouldn’t like based on graphs, but liked them once I heard it.
I primarily listen to pop, electronic, edm, rap, rnb. occasionally instrumentals and rock. Some artists I enjoy are Billie Eilish, Lorde, Sam Smith, Kanye West, Linkin Park, Alicia Keys, Daft Punk, Zedd, Old school Dr. Dre, Dua Lipa, Hans Zimmer, Scott Bradlee’s Postmodern Jukebox, Taylor Swift, Glass Animals, The Weeknd, Justin Timberlake, and more.
I’ve tried a lot of high end IEMs. Just some that I’ve owned/currently own: Custom Legend X, Andromeda 2020, U12t, MEST Mk2 & Mk1, IER-Z1R, Elysium, Dorado 2020, Solstice (Custom Andromeda), Blessing 2: Dusk, and more.
These I’ve tried at audio shows briefly or at stores: IE900, Clairvoyance, Monarch, Variations, whole 64 audio line-up, whole empire ears line-up (including EVO), and much more. I unfortunately haven’t tried the Timeless or Teas.
Out of all of the IEMs that I’ve tried, I would keep the Legend X and the IE900. Only reason I don’t own the IE900 right now is it’s sold out everywhere, but I will own it. Legend X to me is an all rounder IEM, which is controversial when people read about the Legend X as being really bass heavy, but I disagree. Some people think the IER-Z1R is bass heavy and I also disagree with that. To my ears, the LX is a highly technical L-shaped (sometimes V-shaped) that has a unique engaging low end that doesn’t affect the other frequency ranges. Also since it’s custom, it’s very comfortable although the universal version is also comfortable. The Legend X was the first IEM where I felt like I didn’t need to buy more IEMs. IE900 I don’t have enough ear time to describe it well, but what I can say is it’s one of the few IEMs in a long time where I really felt musically engaged. Also it’s ridiculously comfortable and comfort is one of those things that’s underrated in terms of people suggesting IEMs. Would highly recommend considering the IE900 at least, Legend X might not be as immediate in terms of ones liking of it, but I liked it more and more as times goes on. There is a reason why I have it custom now.
U12t to my ears is “boring” in a good way. If I wanted to do work while listening to an IEM, I’d choose U12t since it’s so easy to listen to, but I completely understand why you found it underwhelming. To me, it was a little too boring so I sold it.
MEST Mk2 is praised a lot and I understand the praise, but I didn’t like it as much as other IEMs I’ve tried. However, I thought it was the best IEM I’ve tried when watching movies. MEST to my ears is on the aggressive side of engaging where when you listen to it, it commands your attention. My issue with it is I think it best suits rock, but not really the genres I listen to. It has some coherency issues and gets a bit harder to listen to over time since it’s so aggressively detailed. Despite these negatives, if the MEST fits your library, it is great and I have friends who loved the MEST when I owned it.
I can keep going on and about IEMs, but this is getting a little long, so long story short, give the Sennheiser IE900 a try lol and potentially the Legend X, but it is pricy, especially when not on sale.
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Me too but it does offer amazing impact, texture and decay but lacks that sub bass rumble…then again it’s highs are next level so you pays ya money. etc…lol.
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