Who streams and who dosent?

Two things keep me glued to iTunes:

  1. Great way to store and especially sort your music.

  2. New music every Friday. I spend a couple of hours every week going through Alt Rock, Rock, Blues and Jazz.

Shane D

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Isn’t iTunes going away soon? And yeah my brother who HATES apple but uses it as well to organize his music since he can edit the tags immediately from there. I used to use mp3 yah but since i bought an iPad i have i have to use it to pass my music not to mention converting my flac collection to apples bullshit. But I’m digging it to organize my music pretty painlessly. And it’s cool that they add new music every week but i think most programs have something similar like album of the day or week or whatever

Oh that’s crazzzzzzy! Over six thousand tracks is insane! Pretty cool collection tho. And i like your method of buying the cd and ripping the music or just buying the file. Correct me if I’m wrong but in itunes they just sell mp3s no?

Yeah well streaming is definetly more convinient than vinyl lol

iTunes actually sells AAC format music in 256Kbps VS MP3 at 320Kbps. I cannot tell any difference in my Florence and the Machine music. 2 CD’s ripped as ALAC (identical to FLAC) and the other two albums are AAC files. None at all.

I am not an audiophile, nor do I claim any golden ears. I use a Sony ZX300 DAP into a SMSL SU-8 DAC feeding various amps. Old files from many years ago sometimes sounded bad at lower resolutions, but everything on my current hard drive sounds pretty good except for crappy recordings and there is nothing you can do about that.

iTunes, so far, is not going anywhere. In IOS (which I don’t use), it was broken out from Apple Music and I am not sure what is happening there. iTunes in Windows is still working great and still loading up new music every Friday. I have been using it since I started ripping to my hard drive in 2009 and LOVE it’s flexibility. I am not an Apple fanboy and would never buy an iPhone or a MAC, but they did revolutionize the music industry. I am 59 and have never bought or played more music in my life. My collection is spread across two DAPS, my hard drive and my phone. Everywhere I go I have six and a half thousand songs spanning Miles Davis in the 40’s to Black Stone Cherry, Sturgill Simpson, Christone “Kingfish” Ingram, Hobo Johnson and Bishop Briggs from this year. Life has never been better for music lovers!:+1::+1::+1:

Shane D

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I see, well as long as there is no perceived difference in your ears there is no need! And even though iTunes is a good program i dont know if they necessarily revolutionized anything but I’m not as knowledgeable as others about the topic if you care to teach me

I should clarify that statement: They revolutionized the selling of music. The artist (or their record company) gets the majority of the income from sales. Pretty good trick when you consider all the scumbags that steal music then and since. And the product gave you the flexibility to sort your stuff in every way possible. I suppose you could design a database or something to do that, but iTunes is a lot easier.

I can`t tell tell the difference between formats and neither can the vast majority of people. If you look around the net and read about any blind testing done, the so called “experts” are almost always full of poo.

Shane D

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But the problem with that is that the amount given isn’t the issue. It’s the company giving the artist the proper money, even mow with streaming alot of artists hate the little money they get but the ones that like it like it due to the fact that their company is fair in money distribution or they don’t have a company. And when it comes to illegally downloading music it’s a tricky slope since some would debate due to being ablw to enjoy the music if they don’t have money later when they do they support by going to concerts and merchandise. Some artists included don’t necessarily believe in selling music to make money but instead doing so through concerts and shows. Many of us who have ever downloaded music illegally would agree and the amount of people streaming music is dorect proof that people don’t necessarily believe in buying music

Bullshit. Stealing is stealing. What a record company gives a band is between them and the band.
ITunes is paying the same as apps, as far as I know. That is 70%.

Bands give away music now and then for promotion, but to say that they never want to get paid for copies of their music is ignorant. Nobody wants to work for free. People that can afford to get high, drink and eat junk food can find money to pay for music. They just don’t want to.

Shane D

it seems that there is a very visible disagreement in what music is worth in the world, due to that illegal downloading was huge and now streaming is the main thing. And your right that it’s ignorant to say that an artist wants to give their work for free, thats why i said that its a slippery slope and that most make money from live shows and merchandise now.

8:30 is where you might want to listen, interesting perspective on this. And as true as it is that if you put all your money from junk food, alcohol and drugs into getting every song you want you would probably be able to afford it but thats also an incredibly implausible standard for most people. Which is why, evidently streaming is massive now

Overall just support the musicians that you actually have genuine respect and like to them, because nowadays we know the music industry is not what it used to back then and that is unfortunate. Sure some people are keep saying that there are still some good music out there that are new but sadly they are being overshadowed by so called “talents” or “artists” that should never even have the attention at all. Unfortunately, that is the same case that is happening here in my country and I hate it.

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There is still a TON of good music being made out there. The only problem is that there is a big stylistic change from current artists (generally) and older artists. It’s like you mentioned due to mainstream music alot of good artists are just really overshadowed. Which is a shame but it’s just the way it goes, but ive learned about ALOT of amazing new artists and music! And yeah at the end of the day it’s about supporting artists that gave you joy in any way possible! Can i ask what country you live in?

I am from the Philippines, our so called folk are more like into music from Korea and US in general and it is not a good place to be a musician here.

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Oooooooooh i see! Okay that’s understandable. There’s definitely some countries where you wont find jazz or classical music as easily. And if I remember correctly the philipines similiar to Mexico is all about trendy music so I understand where you are coming from

yeah it is, and our local artists are not so appreciated here but some are appreciated by doing the mainstream method and they damn suck.

There is no discussion about the value of music. Music’s problems center around the fact that it is digital and almost everything digital is quite stealable.

I hear lowlifes ranging from 15 to 50 saying the same things:

  1. I am not paying for movies because Hollywood is rich.
  2. I am not paying for cable because cable companies are rich.
  3. I am not paying for music because record companies and artists are rich.

The bottom line is that the majority of people are sleazy and cowards. They know that they can steal digital files with little to no chance of consequences.

In a store where people face the risk of a punch in the face or a criminal record there is Very little stealing. Once it gets easy, everyone shows their true colours.

I never said that people should spend all their discretionary income on music. It took me decades to build my music collection. Records to CD’s to digital files. I shop for new music every weekend. At Christmas time I loaded up my iTunes account to $300.00, with gift cards from family and my own money. At the end of October, I still have a $90.00 credit. So, I spend about $20.00 per month or $5.00 per week. If you have a DAP or smartphone you can afford $5.00 per week.

As far as streaming goes, I saw some numbers from when Taylor Swift was going after Spotify. I believe the royalty was 0.0007 per play. That is ridiculous.

I understand that you will go on endlessly to justify stealing, but please just give it a break. You know you should pay, you just don’t want to. And there is no mechanism in place to make you pay.

It doesn’t mean that music has no value, it just means that the scumbags are winning.

Shane D

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Regarding this comment, are you referring to downloading TV shows or using the local channels, because I don’t watch much of anything and stopped getting cable/sat and just use my local over the air channels

Also holy crap DirecTV gets expensive

And the best way to do that is buy the music you love. In my part of Canada we get very few bands touring to the east coast. It doesn’t make financial sense for them to tour this far out.
I get that, but I do want to support the people who make the magic. I couldn’t imagine a world without music.
So, buy the music and go see the bands if they come to your town.

I find that new music is hard to find and you really have to put time into looking. For me that is iTunes and YouTube. I spend a few hours a week seeking out interesting music as I rarely listen to radio anymore.

Shane D

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Same here about the radio, most of the music being played here in my country are utter garbage in my opinion, and it is rare to hear some of the songs that I love and I can only hear those songs when it is during the weekends particularly songs from the early 2000s, 90s and 80s. Yeah my music taste is basically an influence from my dad as a kid he constantly play songs from those decades.

Just using a service to steal digital access ( little black box, etc.).
I hear you on the cost. I am with a cable company and my price will jump next summer after the two year promotion ends. I am thinking hard about going with a cheap reseller ($59.00 per month) and I already use Netflix, Amazon and Shudder (about $26.00 per month) and an indoor antenna.

Shane D