Why the pursuit of hyper detail?

i think you got me mixed up with someone else, i love hyper detail. give me all the detail. i never get enough

:no_mouth: oops. Yup. with the original poster. lol. How the hell…

Damn, sorry. Anyway, yes, that’s a good setup, but still:

Edit: Also, there’s placement, and room correction, etc etc…

the Schiit Jotunheim R looks promising for amping the Raal without a second box - from what I read on another forum

I would most likely just use the box and my speaker amps, as I would probably get satisfactory results from that

So, yeah. Hyper detail is basically just proof your system is (really) good. But if the little details annoy you, it’s not because your system is “too good”, it’s because your system “compresses” audio, making subtle details as loud as drum kicks… obviously a bad thing.

Otherwise, yeah, bad recordings exist too.

or the listener just does not like to hear everything. As in hyper detail, you hear everything.
Meaning also that the system is still very good and sound also and not compressed at any level.
Lack of details may be pleasing to some… Also the gear might just be ‘mediocre’ like the music quality.

Listening to every bit of the music can easily turn into listening to details in music, or like observing and no longer listening to music. Listening music is still the main thing in my mind.

Detail for me isn’t an issue as such, how I listen to music depends on my mood as much as the equipment…if i’m chilling volume levels are generally lower and not firing those details at me quite so much…If it’s caffeine, head nodding, foot tapping, totally focused listening then the volumes cranked up and the details are coming at me like a an M2 Browning…I love both scenarios :+1:

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If something is truly really detailed it’s fine but I start to dislike something if it fakes detail or try to make up for lack of detail, that bothers me. Otherwise I don’t really care if something is super detailed or not

At what point do you actually hit hyper detail? Is it at $700, $1400, $2000+? I think my $129 Shouer tapes are the most detailed things I currently own, more so than the Elex in my opinion. How far up the headphone ladder would you have to go reach hyper detail? I like detail, I just don’t understand at which point you hit it.

Hyper detail? Uhhh perhaps after the 3000 range depending on the headphone I guess. It really just depends on how the headphone is made. Some sacrifice timbre and other more pleasing properties for detail, and some lean towards a more organic signature with less detail in your face. Another thing to consider is that a headphone can be just as detailed that might not sound like it, but how it’s presented you may have to listen to it more, because the detail is there but not a pushed towards you

Indeed…if for example you have a headphone with an awesome bass response, fast, deep and thoroughly pleasing, that can take away the way you perceive the mids not because they’re recessed, they are there but presented in a different way.

Kinda, but it’s a bit different with detail retrieval, as I’m not exactly talking about FR

Uh, “Resolve Reviews” said a few times that after 1000$, there’s not much of a difference in terms of detail… Until he tried the 3000$ Focal Stellias, yes.

“1000$ was expensive and now we have 3000$ headphones… it’s getting nuts, guys!” -Joshua Valour

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Lol I don’t even feel that the stellias are even that resolving, I much prefer the clear

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Higher than 1000$ and it’s more like, how “hyper” is your wallet.

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I recently had an experience where I had purchased a ZMF Aeolus and a Audeze LCD-X, and was trying to choose between them while I was still in the return window. The deal breaker for me was the micro detail in the LCD-X. Going back and forth I could, for example, hear the string vibrations on a cello on the LCDX, where it sounded like a single sustained note on the ZMFs. It was a teeny difference, and there were ways that the ZMF was superior, but for me worth it.

Same here…a Hi-hat can make a yay or nah purchases decision for me.

Haha. That often is a tell for detail and presence, isn’t it?

I’m hoping the m1570 is decent enough to even be considered competition to the LCD-X. I am skeptical they share the same 106mm drivers since specifications are different, but I’m hoping that it’s made from the same transducer factory. If they give me the sound I’m after, those would be my PAUSEGAME.

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All my new headphone purchases/interest are on hold pending those models. I wouldn’t buy a LCD-X clone, of course. But both the 1070 and the 1570 may have serious potential.

I like pausegame, BTW. It’s a little more honest than endgame.