đź”· XI Audio Sagra DAC

Wonder how this compares to the denafrips ares II. I like a lil more speeeeed, attack, and leanness while being foward.

Pretty sure this is at a higher level than the Ares II

i googled and this came up lmao

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Probably not a good source for information on sonic performance comparisons between two R2R DACs, given the bent against them and anything that has THD values less than 2 decimal places below audible range.

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The “once I heard R2R I vomited a little in my mouth” comment made me spit my drink. :rofl:

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Is this because r2r dacs tend to measure “poorly” according to the ASR crowd?

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This would be my assumption, yes

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Yes, and of course anything that measures well sounds fantastic and anything the measures poorly can’t possibly sound good. Don’t listen, just measure.

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Has anyone compared the Sagra Dac to the Soekris 2541? Would be interesting since they both use soekris ladders although I think the ladders in the 2541 are of a newer iteration but I could be wrong.

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Anyone know the i2s pinout and protocol?

It’s practically the HDMI standard but for sound only.

the only differences i’ve seen are left and right are reversed sometimes but thats as easy as swapping your outputs.


Taken from http://xiaudio.net/?page_id=1505

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There are 3 to 4 i2s HDMI pinouts, just as a heads up. There its also i2s over rj45 and even DVI and wierd shit like that not to even mention the different transfer protocols. I2s just working isn’t exactly a give detween devices.

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I apreciate the pinout. Ty.

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The system is not designed to be used outside of devices, as such, no connector or pinout is specified. Like @Christof mentioned, there is a convention to do it a certain way via HDMI.

There is not a standard HDMI pinout used but I stead several. Thats why you have PS audio stuff not working with some DDCs. On top of this you can buffered or unbuffered i2s transmission (and IIRC there is even more than one version of unbuffered but the most common is LVDS). Just because a ddc has i2s over hdmi is not even close to a guarantee it will work with a dac that has i2s HDMI input

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That is the thing. I2S by spec always writes into a buffer in the form of the latches on the receiver side.


My personal $0.02 on the subject: The moment I2C (or by extension, I2S) leaves a device enclosure, something has gone wrong in the development stage of the product.

anyone know what fuse spec the sagra uses for 220V?

ASR crowd are a bunch of idiots if you ask me. This hobby is about listening and enjoying good hifi. Clearly they prefer arguing and acting like they are audio engineers.

I’m actually surprised that they haven’t yet realised that the goal of every brand, company or product can be different. An engineer can choose to sacrifice THD numbers in order to achieve the sound or design goal of a product. It’s so silly I don’t understand how they can be so stupid.

The Sagra sounds better than many Delta Sigma DACs I’ve heard- that measure far better.