Yes. They are almost completely closed imo. The isolation stuff is due to a lack of squeeze. They feel almost feather like in tightness of fit, even though they are pretty secure. Keep in mind though, mine are used, so whoever had them before might have had a bigger noggin.
I would say these will comfortably keep you in your own headspace anywhere except a construction site or if someone is playing drums in the room though. Everything thatās not music is very muted.
There is a complete seal around my ear. The vents donāt seem to let sound out at all unless itās realllllllly blasting.
Yep, have seen that and I will likely adjust it. At the same time, the lightness of the clamping is nice. I kinda just forget theyāre there.
Sidenote : Whoever thinks these things are heavy reallllly needs to do some bare minimum shoulder / neck / back work. These things are pretty damn light, especially for having wood cups. After reading everything I expected something like a brick.
i mean they are heavy in comparison to some cans, but the headband and strap system zmf employs is the secret sauce. it just does such a good job of distributing the weight evenly and combined with the awesome ear pads make them super comfy as long as you tweak the band for your head specifically.
Hahah, the ifi hip dac is special though. Iāve been using it on my laptop or lg v20/starfield instead of the atom/enog/xbox/starfields and im starting to like it more. But the 712 and darkvoice is better overall. Iām excited to get a zmf though. Thanks for all info though. Leaning towards the eikon.
listening to my Eikon right now through foobar > enog2pro > hagerman tuba with the RCA 7189 tubes rolled in. Sounds amazing. Iāve been exclusively listening to LCD-X for the last 2-3 weeks and I can really pick up on the differences here. This sounds just so pleasurable lol
I think my only complaint is gonna be I canāt seem to get these guysā headband to comfortably clamp on my head. I watched the headband bending tutorial and spent the last hour trying to bend them into shape. I can get a comfortable fit, but not a good clamp. Itās not like my headās tiny either.
Feels like the more I try to get them to clamp the looser the fit is.
Yea I donāt think Iāve ever been more frustrated with an adjustment system in my fucking life.
Ok. So I finally got it to work. Took about an hour and a half of constant bending and adjustment to get the band a semblance of flat/straight/clamp/even. That was obnoxious. I would HIGHLY prefer adjust any of my other headphones to the constant bending of this. ahhhhh
haha yeah it can take a little fiddling to get it just right. The upside is once you have it the way you want it, it holds the shape remarkably well. I havenāt had to re-bend mine since I received them back in march
Yea, exactly. I still donāt have it perfect. Iād really love to totally flatten it and then bend it from new.
Honestly debating asking ZMF if I can buy a total replacement head strap / mount. Itās still not right and itās driving me crazy. Whoever had these before really fucked the strap up (the angles were ridiculous). Havenāt completely figured out how to unfuckify it yet. You really shouldnāt have to spend 1.5 hours playing with a headband to get it right lol
yeah it looks like you have the old chassis anyways, so you could definitely just order one of the newer style magnesium chassis with headband. be pretty sweet and would cut down the weight a bit too
i think the magnesium chassis is $250. Iām not sure if it includes the headband or strap. I would just email Zach and ask about it, he is pretty responsive and helpful even to secondhand owners
Real questions, has anyone ever thought that the Eikon sounded āthinā? I decided to do a bunch of switching today between my sources and cans and Iāve run into a mental block. My PM-50s are suppppper warm / muted in comparison to the Eikons and the Sundaras. The Eikons just feel like super Sundaras that happen to be closed . However, both the Eikons and the Sundaras are sounding thin to my ears, especially in the upper mids / treble. Has anyone experienced this before? Like the music still sounds good, but Iām really taking issue with the timbre of all three of the cans right now for some unknown reason.
Seems to happen on some recordings much, much, much more than others.
Aināt Got You has an accurate timbre and super detailed, but I canāt shake the thin feeling sound. Dynamic range is still great, all the detail is there, Iām still tapping my feet, but it just feels flat.
