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Does anyone else feel silly pairing a cable with an IEM that costs less than the cable?
Due to dumb luck, I have a Dunu Blanche. And itâs my favorite cable for functional reasons. The duw-02 is a close second but only because the Blanche feels more premium.
Either way, it looks and works wonderfully on the timeless.
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Just adding to my own comment.
I was listening to Letter by Yosi Horikawa and my ears were starting to feel a touch of irritation from IEM usage (not uncommon for me). So I switched to my hp-2.
The presentation in imaging is so different, for a moment I thought there was something wrong on my hp-2. It took a few adjustments and a minute for my brain to adjust.
While the lack of imaging does not bother me on the Timeless, it is an interesting transition. It also has some benefits. Instead of having defined sources/locations of sound, everything is almost everywhere. Itâs an odd feeling initially. And it does have some strengths. It can come across more âfullâ. Itâs more like the sound is coming from everywhere all at once. Honestly, it may be a bit more like standing in a room with hidden speakers. Or possibly using crossfeed to make it almost mono (which the qudelix can do).
Another update: brain is adapting quickly to the âscreechyâ. I enjoyed a large part of S&M this morning without issue.
The Zen may be on the chopping block so I can put its value toward a mest or ie900. 
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@Resolution have you heard Dunu DK4001? Does it play prog metal as well as UM 3DT? I just see a second-hand pairâs selling in my country, bout 300$, is it worth?
Yeah but it does not go with the cable which is about 400$ alone 
Sorry no. I have looked into it in the past though. I prefer more bass than how it graphs so I passed.
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overpriced cable lol. But other than the fact it is a good price (over half the price off), not sure if its good actuallyâŠ
I remember Crinacle and a lot of other people saying the DK-3001 pro was the better one.
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Yes the Timeless is there as well as the tea .O2 is there as top 1dd iem . A Sony think it was NP3 . I do not pay attention to Sony models and the Lohaki to round it out.
Its the XBA-N3. Its an epic set. Sony is legendary.
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Thanks for the help you can tell I probably do not pay enough attention to Sony
I always heard the Blessing 2 had such good technicalities. I bet the Timeless is the next level to this.
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Noob comment: I wonder if the poor imaging is due to internal reflections inside the shell. Could the Timeless benefit from tubingâŠif even possible with that driver?
Itâs strange isnât it? Audeze Euclid is lauded for its technicalities and it has an 18mm driver.
Not sure why the Timeless has bad imaging. Iâm probably getting mine tomorrow, canât wait to try them out.
This statement is interesting to me in a couple of ways. Yes, why is timeless bad at this. But also, I had the euclid, and if it is on the better end of the scale on imaging, it definitely is not a priority for me in an iem.
My IEM experience is limited. My imaging experience comes from over ears. Not sure how good imaging gets on IEMs but I have some idea on over ears (and in some cases I didnât like it or care for it there either).
Anyone have euclid in their imaging rankings? How does it do?
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I am planning on a/b with the b2 dusk soon. Just still thrown off by the comparison with the Zen.
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@Plex_Flex Ok, I just did a quick comparison of one song, short skirt long jacket from cake. It was chosen at random by virtue of the fact that it was already playing. I am probably not going to go nuts comparing the two, but I will happily listen to specific songs and answer specific questions.
Let me just preface, the b2 dusk saved me from leaving the headphone hobby. So, I have a lot of appreciation and nostalgia for this particular headphone. On with it!
The things that stand out immediately: 1) More Visceral Bass on Dusk 2) More detail/resolution/articulation on Timeless 3) Timeless is more coherent. 4) Dusk is tonally more friendly
Digging in.
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Even on this simple rock song, you can feel the DD drivers presence. It just gives that slight oomph. You donât really feel the timeless, but itâs articulation and sonic clarity in the bass is quite a bit above the dusk. So, priorities here is sonic bliss vs a bit of visceral engagement.
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Detail/Articulation/Resolution. Itâs not close. In fact, both the Zen and Timeless are better enough that I started hearing grain and subtle imperfections on the dusk. Enough that I thought my unit might have a problem. But I never did anything since I never even noticed until I got the Zen. Itâs good enough that once you hear it, it may be hard to go back unless you love the dusk strengths.
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Coherency. This appears to be a high priority on my list. The way bass is presented, note weight, articulation, clarity, detail on the dusk varies from the same things on the mids or treble. I can only assume this is a result of being hybrid. Neither the Timeless or the Zen exhibit this. Itâs not like it is horrible, itâs not. I didnât know until I got the Zen. But, that variety in note presentation (and different flaws in each range) is apparent. IT doesnât bother me per se, but I prefer the options that donât have it. This is one thing that always gives me pause about high end hybrid/tribrids. Will they still have it?
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Tonality. The dusk, to me, wipes the floor with the other two. There is no over extended anything. No bright shouty screechy anything anywhere. Both the others get quite intense and need some brain adaptation. Putting on the dusk was like a breath of fresh air. No assault on my ears. Very very good. And definitely a reason to prefer this set.
Bonus: Zen. Timeless is more resolving and articulate than the Zen. Where the Zen wins is it is more visceral (but, not necessarily more engaging, which is odd for me to say. I really like the Timeless). The zen is also less assaulting than the Timeless in shouty brightness (or I have had eight months to adjust to it. Take your pick).
Note on imaging: I have not found the IEMs I have heard to vary much in this respect. The dusk seemed a bit better than timeless and the Zen a bit better than dusk. But I would not have imaging even be in consideration between these 3 iems. None of them make me think âoh, that imaging makes things betterâ. I donât know if thatâs because I just have crappy imaging IEMs or I just donât appreciate what they can do. I would include the audeze euclid in this, but I donât have it for direct comparison.
For the first time in months, I want to listen to something other than my hp-2. And that, in itself, is impressive.
Feel free to ask me questions!
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Itâs odd⊠imaging can get wayyy better on IEMs than headphones since they can image closer to your head where as headphones have this feeling like anything near your head is coming from⊠like a blobish area (either left blob or right blob or even center blob). Where as you donât have that blob effect with IEMs and can pinpoint exactly whether itâs digging inside your head or slightly left or slightly more left. If you have headphones and IEMs to compare, try this song. Especially around 1:18 in when tunes shift around quickly itâs hard to image them on headphones where as itâs very clear on IEMs capable enough:
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Good analysis. Iâm listening to this track (cake - short skirt long jacket) right now with my KZ AST (PEQ applied). BA bass is def enough for me. Yep. Iâm after more resolution and a good balanced tuning with the ability to handle EQ. Planars should do well with EQ so I bet the timeless is gonna fit my needs.
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