Not really. I like to have a few different styles and after a short time your ears adjust.
These will join my S8Fs and Legacy 4s in my regular rotational trio.
If they ever do a Pro version with a tad less middbass and a slight lift in the gain Iād be all over it like a rash.
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Maybe try eartips with wide bore and short nozzles
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How is the tonality and timbre? Is it more like a BA where it decays a bit too quickly than is natural?
Iām not a fan of silicon tips but I will be trying some just to see what the difference is.
Decay is very good( to my ears anyway)
Tonality is a little on the warm side from my ideal but not so much so that it detracts from the enjoyment.
To be honest Iām not much good with all the technicalities but I know what I like and I like these a lot on initial listening.
Need more time to fully evaluate but first impression is all positive.
What other transducers do you have?
How do you assess decay? I know what it means etc., just dunno how to know if decay is ok, wrongā¦
S8F, TA Legacy 2,3 & 4 plus voyager 3, Ikkho OH10, Tin T2plus & T3 & P1, urban fun YBF, Shure tape pro.
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Is the timeless anything like the P1?
To me, after hearing the Sundara, the P1 sounds nothing like a planar (assuming the Sundara is how a planar should sound like). Hoping the Timeless is the Sundara in iem form.
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Sounds with strong fundamental moments like a kick drum ākickā
or better
is a pulled string on a guitar for example.
The harmonic expression from that fundamental moment (the pull) to the end of the sonic event (end of the audiblesonic tail) can be considered decay.
un natural would be abrubt via a cut in amplitude or an exaggeration via a boost or bad driver
Your brain knows how things sound and anything that sounds odd is doing it too fast or too slow.
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Nothing like the P1. It craps all over it except for resolution which is similar but better presented.
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Attack and decay, you can liken it to when you throw a punch (attack) and pulling it back (decay).
Slow or fast decay (and attack) isnt right or wrong. It depends on your library, for example, with Hip-hop, a slower speed (attack/decay) is better than a faster speed. While metal for example is better with faster speed.
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Since itās a planar, does is pull off the trick of ādetached soundā?
Maybe thatās a silly description to some, but what I mean is that every element, or instrument, is surpremely separated and given its own placement to such a high degree that it fools you into thinking itās not coming from the driver itself.
Itās been a characteristic of every planar I have heard, and no dynamic driver has ever really pulled it off.
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I think it does as instruments are clearly defined and image well for an iem.
Iāll be listening more over the coming weeks so I can confirm my initial thoughts and hopefully more attuned folks will confirm.
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Hey, is it possible, by any chance, for you to give a comparison between the Timeless and the Ikko OH10? I suppose theyāre pretty different due to the driver configuration alone. But the latter is the only IEM I own at the moment and Iām very interested in trying out the planar tech via Timeless, but I need a certain point of reference as I canāt afford to go wrong with them in my current situation.
Also, did I get it right that you usually tend to use foam tips? Is it the case with the OH10 too? Personally, I like those only with stock ābalancedā (grey) silicone eartips, which are very wide bore and are on the stiffer side, afaik. Symbio W hybrid eartips and even softer pure silicone ābassā (black) stock eartips make them way too dark and bassy for my liking.
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I do normally use foam tips on all my iems as I find them by far the most comfortable but I do have some Symbio tips (only silicon ones I can get on with).
Iāll try both with some stock tips just to get a flavour.
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Big thank you! Iāll be waiting for your impressions. I believe that Ikko OH10ās stock ābalancedā tips should be very similar to Azla SednaEarfit (not XELASTEC) in both bore diameter and rigidity and, maybe, JVC SpiralDots as well (regarding the bore diameter at least). So if you have any of those and they seem to fit you better, I think you could use those instead.
I have a hard time to get Obsidians to fit properly and stay that way in the ears without sliding out after a few minutes with stock tips due to their weight and shape, as well as my ear anatomy, but sound wise I think itās as good as it gets for me. Sadly, Itās pretty difficult to get both Azla and SpiralDots here where I live, so I didnāt have an opportunity to try them out yet. I want to try out generic aftermarket silicon ear hooks from AliExpress in attempt to address this problem. Iāve got a feeling that OH10 were designed with a superficial fit in mind (hence the short nozzle), as they seem to sound the best that way, but both their weight and shape were not though out well in that regard, imo. Iām worried about the fit with the Timeless too, but I want to get a taste of a planar sooo bad.
I digress too much, though. Sorry
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@hawaiibadboy Sorry, do you have a final score yet for the Timeless on your Tier list? Is it a A+ set?
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Ok so Iām gonna have to reconsider foam tips (or maybe cut them down to the nozzle tip) cos the Symbio tips open things up quite a bit and the signature is less warm and closer to neutral in fact they sound bloody great so definitely worth tip rolling.
You lose a bit in the bass but you gain in the mids.
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