Are you Ricky Booby? The F1 topic

Yeah, great racing and exciting to the last lap :grinning:

Bottas did a bit of an underwhelming job of ā€œrear gunnerā€ to Lewis, but i guess his tyers where quite bad that late in the race from mercā€™s one stop strategy.

The McLarens rounding up top 6 was nice to see, but Ferrari disappointed me a bit, seemed like they lacked a bit of speed, and Sainz did himself no favors with locking up on the lap out to the gridā€¦

A good race at Paul Ricard? Holy crap thatā€™s rare.

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Second race in a row Mercedes destroys in the first round. Iā€™m not necessarily a Red Bull fan, but man those guys at Merc are working to f*ck this season for everyone.

Lool Mercedes the only one on the Grid of the Restart,:joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:.

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A different kind of race for sure. Getting tired of watching ā€œMercā€ destroy their competition. Nice to see a first time winner, though. Well deserved I thought.

Thought it was a real shame that Red Bull where effectively taken out of the equation in the first corner, it was nice to see a new winner, and there where tension through out the race. Would have liked it if Hamilton ended behind Alonso, and perhaps Verstappen in front of the 2 Williams drivers, but stillā€¦

Ohā€¦ and it seems Vettel is under investigation, they could not get the 1l fuel sample stated by the rules that should be left in the tankā€¦ that would just be sad if he is DQed

It looks like Bottas was a team player in this race :grinning:

Alonso done a fantastic drive in this race.

Yes, Vettel was disqualified because there was only 0.3 liters of fuel in the tank instead of the prescribed 1 liter.
Hamilton is now 2nd and Sainz 3rd.

Thatā€™s a really shitty rule.
Theoretically he should have parked the car on the last lap.
This is so stupid really.Especially after such a race where you have tried hard to be disqualified because of it.

The Fia has really strange rules.
It was also seen in Silverstone with Hamilton and Verstappen.

Seriously, what the fuck is going on with the rules and regulations of the FIA?
Speeding in the pitlane gets you 10 second stop and go, taking a bunch of people out without any serious harm gets you 5 positions the next race, you can drive someone of the track at 280 km/h and get a 10 second penalty, but a few to few fucking drops of gasoline will get you disqualified immediately?
You canā€™t say that the FIA is trying to help Merc because everything is in the rule book, but someone should really take a hard look at that book because shitā€™s pretty fucked TBH.

Also, can someone explain why Bottas gets a penalty of 5 places for the next grandprix? I mean he knocked some people off the race, but it was a mistake in the first corner of a wet track, I can think of at least 5 reasons why this was more excusable than Hamiltonā€™s little love tap in the previous race.

I think the DQ for the fuel is because they need a liter to be able to do proper testing. Without proper testing they canā€™t verify that the car ran with legal fuel.

Sucks for Vettel but all the teams know the rules and everyone knows that if you donā€™t pass scrutineering, youā€™re DQā€™d.

As for penalties for race incidents, thereā€™s no hard and fast rule - theyā€™re all unique and subject to the interpretations of humans. So almost anything goes :man_shrugging:

Anyway, fun race from beginning to end. Ham by himself at the restart was a bit bizarre lol.

Agreed. I have never seen that before where there was only one car on the grid! MotoGP came close two seasons ago I think because of a tire SNAFU. Only 3 or 4 bikes started on the grid. The pile up at Pit out was hilarious! But yes, that was indeed pretty strange.

As for Vettel and the penalty, yes that sucked pretty hard. But as they say, rules are rules. They will put more fuel n next time Iā€™m sure. On to the nextā€¦

They are only allowed to put in so much fuel, 100 litres I think. If the driver is racing hard or trying to overtake constantly like Seb was then it wastes more fuel.

If there is a safety car or some of the laps are done at a slow pace it allows the driver to conserve fuel and attack hard again without having to worry about leaving a minimum for checks after the race.

There was a race a good few years ago where Seb was asked to stop immediately after the checkered flag as the team saw there was not enough fuel to make it back to pits and have enough left for checks. Iā€™m surprised the team werenā€™t monitoring it and asked him to stop earlier.

Allegedly, Aston Martin has commented in a report where you said that the fuel pump was defective and that was the reason for the standstill.
According to this, there should still be 1.44 liters in the tank minus the sample.
They will check whether it is really due to the pump.
If so, you could appeal.
Since still the sensor is there where the consumption measures that was ordered, would allegedly be the chances good.

Ultimately, it is and remains a stupid rule.
When I see how other teams are punished in part rigorously and others are not, it makes no fun.
Just like the principles of the Fia.some are so old that they must be reviewed.
Christian Horner has initiated something where he is right.
By the cost capping everyone agreed but if there are accidents and other teams against each other drive in no one pays.This is also point that must be clarified if one decides already cost capping.
Red Bull can say goodbye to 2 engines by the last 2 crashes that were caused.
With all the trimmings roughly estimated 5 million for nothing.just because 2 Mercedes drivers who are paid expensive are too stupid to plug in and maintain.
Mercedes has Red bull so denied the opportunity to continue to make points.
Is that unsportsmanlike?

one would think that 0.3l would be enough to verify the quality/legality of the fuel, but it is a ruleā€¦ Real shame if Seb loses his 2nd place, especially since this is the teams responsibility, not the driver. Losing the constructors points and a little fee would seem more appropriate since it didnā€™t really give Seb an advantage as long as the fuel itself is legalā€¦

Some detail on the fuel regs:

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I donā€™t know what Vettel has done to be taken apart by the Fia every time.
Something must have happened.
Funnily enough, it started when he was at Ferrari.
Somewhere it started to go against him.
With any other team and driver, they would never have made such a wave, except with Vettel.

That they confiscate the whole car is really awesome and in the next race he has to go back 5 places because of something like that.
Thatā€™s so ridiculous, they should just sort it out in the next 3 weeks and prove that thereā€™s enough fuel in the tank.
So much for cost reduction, the ā€œdearā€ Fia will have to rethink that soon.
They wonā€™t be able to handle it like this every time.

Well that was an exciting end to a great season.

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Yes it was.
Both deserved it but there can only be one in the end.
In the end, I see it as redemption for Max after losing points in the Silverstone and Monza crashes.
At Monza it was just both of them, at Silverstone I just see that Lewis could have backed off as he still had the race ahead of him.
Then there wouldnā€™t have been such a controversy and the experience of Monza would have been different.

Maxā€™s action last week wasnā€™t quite okay, but Lewis did it with Vettel back then.

I find it disturbing that the FIA decides from race to race when there are incidents, and the whining of the teams to the FIA during the race.
What Toto Wolff did there was very arrogant.
It is the race control that gives instructions, not the teams to the race control.
I wish more could be done about that.
That the teams and drivers become calmer.
I thought Max was often at a disadvantage because of the paternalism of the FIA.
He was fairer than Lewis, I have to say.
So I think it was right today that Max is world champion, even if Toto Wolff is still raging with anger.
He is currently looking for a reason to appeal against the result, which has been leaked.

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It would be terrible if the championship was overturned after this. It would make the sport look really bad to the world.

Something needs to be done about the teams petitioning the race director to get him to look into incidents or to tell when there should or shouldnā€™t be a safety car to their own benefit. Communication should not be allowed in that direction.

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