wait lol, you wrote suede for both. which one did you mean for which?
For both I would assume and Iām inclined to agreeā¦ recently zeppelin and hendrix are sounding pretty harsh on a thing like a sundara but sounds great on the hawks
And hip hop and electronic is suede everytime
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iāve heard that alot about the suede for edm etc. which honestly really surprises me, for some reason i donāt like that genre with the suede at all. prefer brighter stuff for that like the 4xx or the pleather pads
Not really edm more like massive attack, portishead, tei shi, etc ā¦ much slower bass than edm
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Yeah I meant it for both. Suede for relaxing and bass heavy music and for old music like Motown.
Then I like leather more for acoustic, 70s rock things like that where I want less bass and more treble.
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Admittedly the poor hawks have been getting lonely since my Aeolus came in and even more so with my aeons lol. I tried switching right after the Aeolus and the hawks felt so hollow and unlively in comparison. If I use the hawks, I have to be sure that I donāt use other headphones that day or directly before them and only use the hawks that day, then they sound great.
But anytime I switch to the hawks right after another pair itās difficult because of that adjustment period. You have to forget what others sound like a bit before they come out to fully appreciate them ha.
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Are those the uniās?
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Speaking of pad rolling the NH. Uni perf suedes have a neutral sound signature.
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Yes indeed
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Just tried the lamb perf uni. They are a bit harsher in the treble compared to the perf suedes. With the perf suedes they sound so smooth.
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Nice Iāll give that a try for the fun of it 
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Infected Mushroom sounds amazing with the suede.
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btw, looking back at messages. even tho i was peer pressured by mon, veritas and soren YOU were actually the main guy that sold me on these lol. talking about your bro, or brother in law who owns the 4xx but as soon as he heard the hawks he said he did prefer them. Your impressions and how stoked you were about these were something i always kept in mind as i first got them.
It was a bit of a slippery slope at first lol, quite difficult to have gotten used to them. all worked out well in the end tho
peer pressure no bueno 
i know, one of those 3 is a teacher too lol. no good
Haha Iām glad it worked out. I getting very excited about anything I get that is new of different sounding. I do love the hawks and they sit on my personal wall of fame. Iāll take another pic of my updated wall of fame here when Iām done with yard work.
But when I wrote that it was after a week of only listening to the hawks and thatās when they shine the most. I still think theyāre an amazing pair but thatās the thing about them like many have stated. Itās not only that you have to use these a bit to get used to them. But you also have to retrain your ears and brain and only listen to them every time you use them. Itās weird but you really have to be sure not to switch from other headphones with higher treble or anything. They always sound off to me right after another pair.
I still do think they sound great for casual games. Like the sounds are more ambient and not in your face, kinda like a 5.1 system or something. Actually. Hmmmmmmmm. I bet these would sound great with Dolby atmos for headphones on the pc. Iām gonna try that today. Hmmmmmmm.
Overall I still think you couldnāt go wrong if you got them for the 200 bucks. And Iād never get rid of them. Theyāre the most unique things I have.
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Playing Doom eternal with dolby atmos enabled is an experience
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Iāll have to try that as soon as I buy doom eternal. I think Iām too depressed to play games after hearing the last of us 2 got delayed 
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Thatās how I felt during the Cyberpunk announcement, but same feeling for both. At this point, Iād rather have an extremely polished game anyhow
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