Watch it. This person was almost a President
We got another lunatic instead
I live in Japan
Can’t vote unless I am a Japanese citizen
Of course I need a fucking ID
She Implied that poor rural people might not have access to a photo id
These people live in a bubble..,
Yeah , he loves shopping 
. He always gets some of what he wants. He’s kinda spoiled but he’s my only child and we’ll find a balance
I hope 
She actually sounds like she had one drink too many before the interview. Or perhaps she realised what she was saying…
The living in a bubble is on the money IMO (saying that as a European of course). Important reason why she couldn’t connect with enough voters in all likelihood.
Last I heard framework ram upgrade kit wasn’t gonna go up in price
I didn’t check what was the aftermath tho
Edit: some manufacturers had already secured enough ram before the crisis for the next two years irc
On other hand I see interviews where satya Nadella is like they have gpus and stuff lying around that’s not utilised.
People say the ai bubble will break soon
These guys already have people to bail them out.
Right after her comment about Kinko’s
The BET interviewer (if she did’nt know this was coming)
kinda tells it all
This lady is nutz
I didn’t even know black and white copies of your ID would cut it?
Unless she made that up ? Which would be insane.
Over here, copies can be used for some things like job contracts (usually with a watermark stating the purpose of the copy for preventing fraud). When voting though you bring the actual ID.
From what I know about ID usage in the US, this would actually not surprise me tbh.
I’ll be honest. I don’t understand this.
We have this : Belgian identity card - Wikipedia
You are legally required to carry this when outside at all times. It takes precedent over your driver’s licence. If you don’t have it on you when stopped by the police, you will get a fine.
This card is also used when voting. The vast majority of the country votes electronically now (still at a voting locations like schools, rec centers etc) We are one of the few countries in the world when you are legally required/forced to vote. Very few exceptions are allowed. I don’t really see that as a better option, and I’m also not smart enough to even think about what would be the best option when it comes to voting procedures,
Same here, though your driver’s license will be accepted for most things except voting and some other use cases (i.e. police will accept it).
Edit: though over here ID cards are not in wide use, most people use their passport.
I think the big difference between the US and countries where voter ID is required is that the US generally has much more of a history of trying to make voting difficult. It’s part of why there’s usually so much pushback against anything that seems close to it. It wasn’t until the 24th amendment 1964 that poll taxes were finally made illegal Federally (and 66 when the Supreme Court ruled them illegal for all elections). This was also the main point of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which has been chipped away at in various ways. Poll taxes were used historically to disenfranchise the poor, but especially poor blacks in the South (poor white people often had grandfather clauses baked in trust exempted them, or they would have been disenfranchised too).
Generally speaking the obsession with voter fraud here mostly strikes me as a cover for further weakening voting rights and protections. The cases of it actually coming up or being abused are usually very few and far between (I live in Oregon where nationally we’ve been a target because we have statewide mail in ballots). Now we’re in a mess in the US because the floodgates have been opened on redistricting to change the likely Dem or Republican lean in congressional districts (something which had been forbidden), with both Red and Blue states now going all in.
The big thing I observe with other countries that have required ID is that they have much much stronger infrastructure and support to help ensure anyone can vote. More polling places, not charging for ID’s, etc (or making a Voter Authority Certificate freely available for people who don’t have anything like them). Many countries have election days on weekends to ensure voters are able to vote - or those that hold them on weekdays still guarantee time off to vote. It looks like only the US and UK don’t specifically guarantee time off to vote.
Anyway, apologies for the rambling, but generally this is why I’m suspicious of most actions we see in the US related to voting rights. We just getters have a very ugly history here that still is going on today.
I think if the US was really concerned about voting then we would make voter ID a requirement but combine it with more protections to ensure more polling places accessible to all, nationwide support for provisional and proxy voting for those who can’t, free voter ID requirements so payment and fees can’t be a barrier, a national voting day holiday, etc.
Over here, you have to pay for your passport as well as ID and there are no substitutes for voting related purposes. Voting always takes place on a Wednesday and you don’t get time off to do so in any form of fashion (just to add a perspective from one part of the European continent).
ahh, interesting. What country is that? When I looked this up while putting my really together I didn’t really find any other European countries to don’t guarantee time off for voting, so looks like the stuff I was reading was missing.
definitely curious about the history there - at the very least it’s still why I tried to provide some of the back history of what the US has done.
EDIT: this is the breakdown I was going off of, voting in OCED countries;
7 hold elections on regular weekdays: Canada, Denmark, Ireland, Netherlands, Norway, UK, USA**.** The US and UK are the only two that do not provide guaranteed time off to vote.
27 hold elections on weekends, mostly Sunday, some on Saturday: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Chile, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, New Zeeland, Poland, Portugal, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey. (Missing: Colombia and Costa Rica)
2 hold elections on weekdays but they are declared national holidays: Israel and South Korea.
That would be The Netherlands. Polling stations are open from 07:30 to 21:00 so there is ample opportunity to cast one’s vote in any case. Weekend voting is indeed the norm in a lot of European countries, with Sunday being the most common day of choice.
We also receive a kind of certificate by mail stating you’re eligible to vote but that still requires proof of identity (which makes sense because mail can be intercepted and the certificate contains nothing that can be used to verify your identity). From a European perspective, the idea of voting without proof of identity is probably a strange one (like Drefbal already made clear).The issuance of passports and IDs is well organised in general (and even centralised over here). Even if you rarely travel abroad, people tend to apply for a passport instead of an ID card.
Kai looks like a little heartbreaker.
Food looks fantastic.
It’s about the same where I live. We pay for every ID, you are required to have your ID or passport on you if police stops you or you will pay gruesome fine. Voting is only with ID and fingerprinting on entrance. Usually it’s on Sunday but also on Wednesday, usually Wednesday is forced for voting where you need consensus of minimum percentage voters to be successful. For now only two times they were on Wednesday since I remember. Before voting you can access the voting list and if you have some changes in your living adress etc you need to apply with the new living situation and everything to be able to vote. Also getting new ID can be pain in the ass procedure and wait for two or three months for the new one to be given to you. Only original ID is acceptable in banks and for official stuff, sometimes it is acceptable to have notarized copy for something like job application let’s say.
In the UK you do not need ID to walk around, and the police can only ask for your details if you are arrested for an offence, otherwise you can tell them to go fuck themselves (quite literally). As for voter ID, it can be done online, for free, if you don’t have any of the accepted formats, driving licence, passport etc.
At the last General Election, Boris Johnson, the former Prime Minister, was refused entry to the polling station because he had no ID, and had to return home to obtain ID before he could vote.
There should be no barriers which prevents anyone who is legally entitled to vote from voting. Absolutely no-one should be forced to pay anything to obtain permission to perform their intrinsic right to cast their vote in free and fair elections. Anything that prevents this automatically discounts the process as ‘free and fair’.
Interesting. In spirit I would still credit the Netherlands for trying to make voting easier - it sounds like they do Wednesdays to avoid religious conflicts on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Also interesting to learn that until 1970 voting was compulsory there.
I think fundamentally that’s a big difference, in the US a lot of our efforts seem focused more on putting as many roadblocks to voting as possible (I.e. limiting the hours for polling places, reducing the number and location of polling places, etc)
And fundamentally the focus on things like voter fraud are generally overblown:
Through an analysis of the conservative Heritage Foundation’s election fraud database, Kamarck determined the share of reported cases of fraud over the past 13 to 38 years across several key swing states is less than 1 percent.
In Pennsylvania, for example, the Heritage Foundation analyzed 30 years of data, across which 32 elections were held. Just 39 cases of voter fraud were identified — 0.000039 percent of the more than 100 million ballots cast in those elections.
Also as I’m reading about this, it does seem worth noting that rules and requirements are different in each state.
Here in Oregon they just try and do as much as possible to make voting easy. We do mail in ballots only, and there are plenty of official ballot drop off sites at places like libraries in addition to mailing them. They do signature verification which at least in my experience seems to be enforced (there was one election where my signature didn’t closely match the signature on my drivers license and I had to go downtown to the voting office to verify my ballot in person). They also do auto voter registration when you get your drivers license. Personally I like the system because i find that it actually encourages me to read up on alL of the candidates and ballot initiatives, something which I often didn’t do as much in other states I’ve lived in.
The biggest recent issue we had here was around 1200 non-citizens who were registered to vote during to clerical errors at the DMV, 10 of whom actually voted:
I mostly note this just to point out that even a case like this ended up being a very small number of potential voters and a minuscule number of actual votes.
Just generally speaking it’s been a bit bizarre how much focus there is on it without real evidence of it being a widespread issue.
Safe to say quite different take on voting in the states especially compared to most EU countries. It’s quite easy to vote where I live (North Macedonia), susceptible to manipulation but a lot less in recent years when fingerprinting was introduced. Earlier we had like thousands dead people vote…
Physical ID and fingerprinting being basic is the foundation to preventing voter fraud.
As to free voting? Of course.
Free ID?
Nah.
I live in Japan.
You cannot come and stay without a solid source of income with a contract to prove it.
Being unable to afford an ID opens a whole other issue.
If I could build a device to sort this fake vote thing, it would be to have a simultaneous heart rate sensor when scanning the fingerprint,
I assume with IDs the govt also has your fingerprint n stuff, So easier verification. System only allows entry when both are present. The dead votes can be removed that way, but crooks will still find a way around it. As people grow older, them fingerprints smoothen out. That Fingerprint + heart rate sensor only useful for people below 60 i guess…
This conversation about the differences in how voting works in different places is a nice example of one of the good aspects of the internet. Education. I’m learning things I never knew and that’s cool.
