I got used to my followers seeing pics and then no vid = pass
Saves me shitting on sets.
I only mention this because it was sent free, had big potential and failed spectacularly.
I am seeing it being rec’d over 7Hz…strongly.
Man, if it’s flawed itself stop wasting folks money.
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Order KATO
KATO canceled
Chat online with Shenzen
try to re order, item will not appear in cart.
I am asked to confirm identity.
I do so
Chat box goes silent. Then empty.
Literally unable to buy the item because they know who i am.
(… who rec’d 7 of 10 Moondrops…that 3 no recs…cannot happen fam)
If Linsoul ever pulls shit like that…YOU FUCKING LET ME KNOW!!!
So 2 weeks ago my China connect does the buy.
She gets the same deal and it blows her mind.
She is IN THE BIZ
They know her CC digits and sqashed the transaction.
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For my point of view u said there is a potential in this iem i think if u did a constructive criticism in a short 2min video its not gonna be rec’d and the company will take notes and make Tweeks to solve the problem with a mk2 set
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They know that u will do a 30s video on Twitter saying that its a kxxs with better packaging and accessories and that will cost them alot cz u are so influential in this hobby
They had a very small selection of IEM 3 years ago and saw Linsoul and Penon as direct competitors to be crushed. The IEM was a lucritave market they were late to arrive at.
They identified influencers and friends of those influencers.
They planted folks in Social media platforms who are essentially working for them.
Same as other companies from U.S. and EU but more…so becomes more obvious more quickly.
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You nailed it.
Sadly there are people on this site who will LOVE an item if they get along with a person and be meh if they don’t get along with a person.
Lots of emotions that have nothing to do with audio replay ability.
Companies do what they do for profit. Trolls on here and elsewhere do it because they are assholes.
Their lives suck…they get older everyday but being a prick online apparently soothes that pain
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U have said it over and over that it can’t be a job and u are not doing that for money u r doing that cz it is ur hobby . And this is the difference between u and everyone who seeks to make money thinking that lying on people is a way to make money
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I add to the toxicity but I can either just watch it all go by or say something.
The 7Hz thread a week ago was fucking embarrasing. Absolutely ridiculous shouting down owners as being wrong.
Wrong…about an opinion 
That doesn’t even make sense
The immediate effect was no more glowing praise of Mele…right away.
Eject from this thread…right away.
Sent a dude an expensive set and have not heard from him since.
I’d prefer to have fake folks STFU anyway but it is noteable and obvious.
In that way, Head Fi is much better. This is a club house.
I’ll be glad when the mods say “Alright…that’s it” and bounce folks
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Ima switch topic a bit.
Back to Moondrop 
LOL
I see it as business strategy and as a person who just released MELE direct to buyers without a slew of reviews first i can appreciate the strategy. They have a plan.
Ghosting me and denying me the purchase was uncool though
and… next time and anytime I see folks 1,2,3 jumping on a fellow hobbyist and telling them that their opinion is wrong?
That’s bullying and will get a flag. I’ll do that until this site bounces me and I’ll be smiling everytime.
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If KATO is as appears a Starfield with a better driver.
Since I rec’d Starfield I’d be hot on KATO. I would bring a lot of sales from my end which is not big with Moonfans. (That’s partly why it would be potent)…but that is always an unknown with me so…why risk it if you are them? I get it. No bad feels outside the order refusal.
I would not put Mele over it as that would be so transparent and cringe. Even if by some way I thought so i would let it battle with other $200 sets.
I’m not going to shoot myself in the face so completely 
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Rant video time @hawaiibadboy ? It’s been a long wait since the T2 Plus/SSR rant, make it happen again for first 5 minutes…haha
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Aaaah ha ha
It has been so long.
You remember T2+ 
That was so nutz they changed the tuning before release. I actually gave Linsoul and Moondrop big kicks in the face.
The T2+ vid was waaaay more cray…and it did not change my relationship with them at all
another gem
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You should make a playlist for rant videos
- Portafi - ibasso sounds better than wm1a, when you said “they say it’s better than a wm1a DAP ,which is over 100$” . I knew it was over for portafi in 2019.
2.then your video on expensive cables, and QC control.
3.SSR is great for pop…bs
- And then T2 Plus takes over SSR, in another video for 5 mins.
Now 5th place can be taken by Shenzhen and Moondrop.
And add poop infront of these videos with a tick.
Trust me it would be a great playlist.
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I have an unlisted treasure trove. 
I should publish again but T puts them as latest publish…I gotta figure a way. There are some crazy vids in the vault
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Ending - “Do a better job , and I’m out”
Damn
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shieeetttttt thats some high level debauchery happening there. hahahaha
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Yup.
Even a person living/working in Shenzen who is deep in the game got blocked.
That is some serious narrative control right there.
Fot a KxxS Starfield cousin…it makes no sense
If it were SSR v2…I’d get that
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Posted my 7Hz impressions in its thread, but here it is for the hometeam also.
So ive been listening 7hz Timeless for couple of days, connected to Fiio BTR3K Balanced and Shanling UP2 (LDAC 990 44/16). While the power output of those might not satisfy everyone, i can say it gets plenty loud for me, my threshold for very loud is around 72db. With fiio been running it 20-28 notches out of 32 depending on level of the song, so there is still some spare for power peaks. On shanling i cant tell exactly as it has 64 levels and no indication, but there is also spare left.
So is Timeless a detailed iem? Yes, indeed it is. In the process of listening to what not from my library, i did a quite a few tone sweeps to make sure the IEMs arent at fault 
but its actually the planars catching few scratchy sounds and mastering inherent clipping that was in some tracks that i didnt notice previously.
Bass is plenty and more than i expected, clean, rumble is there, but some songs can sound bit veiled to my ears. Reducing 1-2 db at 250Hz with GEQ helps the situation for those tracks. That 2hz peak can be bit harsh on certain tracks, especially with female vocals and some instruments that are on the higher registers(like high brass/violin notes or similar).
Using the soft silicone tips that came on the set, as they do fit pretty nice and are sticky so dont fall off the ear. Could be possible not touching the EQ at all but alleviating this with some tip rolling, havent gotten much into this.
As for the sounstage , i find whats already been said mostly true, and was kind of bummed out as i read those comments just few hours before receiving my unit. After listening it i found said stuff to be mostly true, but after receiving it i realized its in no way a dealbreaker or reducing my enjoyment with the set. Worth noting though, is that in the process of evaluating there were some songs that made me think my bluetooth receiver disconnected and sound was comming from the speakers in front of me. So it seems theyre capable of depth, just depends on how the song was recorded i suppose. Ex. athmospheric/reverb acoustic guitar ones are there. One of those songs with depth was David Munyon - Looking at the Rain.
So bit conflicting with what others said, but this is how i understand soundstage and imaging… There is a blob that is the soundstage and it can have depth(projected at distance from you)/heigt/width, and then within that blob is the imaging that gives you cues where instruments are. Someone correct me if im wrong…
So with this being said, the 7Hz can have depth in the soundstage(projecting it infront of you and giving you the feeling that sound is comming from speakers), can be felt with that song i mentioned above, and i can hear it in this test pretty clear. Im getting the impression that the sound is comming from my speakers which are about 5 feet in front of me while dong the test.
So depth for the soundstage is there, just within that soundstage theyre not doing pretty good job of giving you the depth position of the instruments(like hints that singer/gutars are in front, drums in back).
Important thing to remember is that soundstage is also a brain thing, what your eyes see your brain will expect and your ears will hear. Since music is sort of an esoteric thing, expectations, mood, blood pressure in your pumpkin will have effect on how you interpret music also. Sometimes some song can sound harsh to you while other times it wont. Same with soundstage.
Ive had times when i was under an impression that iems lost soundstage which was previously there, to have it back at a different point. Im middleaged, so age might have to do something with it, idk, but these observations stand true in my case.
Someone mentioned that they wouldnt be good for watching movies, forgive me for not remembering who it was, but i have bit different oppinion on that subject. Deem them good for the purpose though not without some added help from sound processing. Namely Convolver with following impulses - Dolby Headphone Cinema/Room/Studio and HXR Theater Pro, give pretty good results for my taste, with depth being present and giving impression that youre hearing things comming from your speakers.
The Doors - Riders on the Storm, is imo pretty good demonstration of planar vs BA difference. My first planar set, so it was intersting to hear some pretty stark difference in this example. The second overdubbed track of Jims vocal where he whispers the lyrics sound just in place, smoother and much more coherent with first vocal track, while with BA its raspier/ghostlier and separated. I find do prefer the way planar sounds over BA.
All in all pretty satisfied, though its not without some gripes. Like missing nozzle tuning foam in the package. Ive seen them in some unboxing video, and then there was another unboxing that also didnt have them. Mine already have foam in the nozzle. So did anyone that got them with the foam in the baggy with the spare grills already has the foam in the nozzle? Or those that got the foam dont have it installed, and was left as option to the user?
There were some scratches on the metalic case i got. Same issues were present on the one unboxing available on youtube of the set, the guy had some dings on the iems too which couldnt be from the shipping due to the light weight, and them fitting pretty tightly in the case with the cable.
My case also had some pretty sloppy glue application and streaks of it near the hinge. Material inside is soft enoug and will do the job for protecting the iems, but its pretty thin and will wear out quickly if used frequently imo, also pretty cheap looking. They could have done a better job there.
While not big problem in the larger picture, still brings up some concerns regardind QC, that might or might not affect the iem itself after period of usage. Not the most expensive product, but not cheap either, and for the price i would expect bit more care taken. 7Hz has some space to grow in that area.
Oh, and almost forgot… First IEM with MMCX(been avoiding it successfuly so far), and i hate it from the bottom of my soul. And its not that its too stiff, it just doesnt inspire confidence in me, every time i unplug/plug im expecting something to break as compared to 2 pin still much greater force is needed, 2 pin is so muuuch better imo. But maybe ill grow into trusting it, or even liking it, who knows. One of the mmcx connectors on the iem is bit looser on my set.
Havent used the stock cable at all, but switched straight away to, so cant comment on it.
Fit might be a problem for people with small ears, as with my medium ones, the shell touches the inner back part of the ear(is it ear labia?) and causes some pain after long wearing(5+ hours). Imo nicely rounding the edges would have been a much better choice instead of going with the slightly chamfered edges.
Though its not a problem wearing them for 3-4 hours for me, and this is with the small tips that came on the set, so they go in pretty deep. Putting on tips that would make it sit differently/more shallow could potentially eliminate that issue entirely.
With all said, would have i bought them knowing beforehand all the cons i mentioned… Yes.
Dont consider this a review in no shape or form, but just few observations that jumped in my face in the short period i had them. Im still high on my iem fix :), so best for few weeks to pass for potentially revised or unchanged oppinions and conclusions.
Pretty short post, EH?
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You just did probably (Definitely) most balanced take on the set I have read or seen so far.
I sent Mele direct to buyers before any opinion givers could swallow it with politics.
The buyers will determine if a set lives long or dies fast.
Your take on 7Hz is a lot like mine.
I said it was the best stock planar IEM. Still do.
Said it was for 2 groups
- p1 lovers
- Folks who want to experience planar without stupid prices.
I stand by that strongly still.
Your Doors music cue moment was excellent. Just listened with Timeless 
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I’m here, lol.
Even yesterday i recced Mele over blon when everyone was doing passes and mesh modding it here and on discords.
Seriously? Im avoiding trouble. 7hz was a shitfest but you guys were right. So I just kept away. Also been avoiding any thread, just not yours specificly.
Oh and the set is stuck on customs, I havent received it yet. Will PM you when I do get it, ofc.
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