Bad Guy Good Audio Rankings and stuff (under construction) (Part 2)

I’m sure that PhonoPhi is an absolute expert on Intermetallics and knows the chemistry of Lithium-Magnesium compounds in all of their applications /s
Just because an individual element may have a property, that does not mean that it exists in every compound in every application. This is like people worrying about huffing the Beryllium out of their drivers all over again…
Edit: on top of that, just because they say “lithium-magnesium” driver, we don’t even know what the actual compound(s) used are. It’s like saying Iron always rusts no matter where and how you use it, even though things like Stainless Steel and Hastelloy alloys exist specifically to resist corrosion despite the presence of Fe.

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The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry

This hobby is littered with headphones, earphones DAP’s etc that were great ideas to engineers that never stuck the landing and were huge losses.

In nearly every segment of every industry companies can intentionaly kneecap products via measured and benched specs whether it’s models of TV’s and screen,inputs or phones with a myriad of things in or kept out turned off.
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Undercut a market by targeting a rival, offer that (what they do) and add 1 option over or cut profit in exchange for potentially securing bigger part of the segment you are aiming at.

In this hobby, dominated like no other by subjectivity…it’s like art really… the game of margins of profit based on materials (drivers etc) is Guesstimation at it’s most obvious. Lilly Gilding…bigger boxes, more accessories. cables with changeable terms…it sure looks like the better set…these folks must know exactly what they are doing…(The whole hobby not Chifi specific)…yeah they can’t get into the ears and heads of consumers and the driver the manufaturer says is premium might not sound like it with music.
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If I’m wrong then every set should be better than the previous,
Companies with tuners should always release pricey step ups that are audibly superior.
I don’t know any Headphone or Earphone company that can read the tea leaves or do what any phone, TV, or automobile company can do with benching and spec splashing …the measurable objective info.
Even with that they fail to replicate prior succecess.
Sorry if you read my “Water is Wet” stuff and feel annoyed.
This hobby really needs trusted folks with music libraries like your own to confirm if it’s Guesstimation and margin manuevering or an actual step up…and that is still just a well articulated opinion filled with bias of so many kinds.

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In many applications where corrosion is a concern, alloys are coated with a protective layer. This could be an oxide layer, a polymer coating, or some other type of corrosion-resistant material. If Simgot didn’t think about this treatment that would be really a big failure. The oxidation properties of lithium and magnesium are very “bad”. See the standard electrode potentials of some metals used in IEMs. This measurement reflects a metal’s tendency to oxidize, i.e., lose electrons and form cations.

  1. Copper (Cu²⁺/Cu): +0.34 V
  2. Magnesium (Mg²⁺/Mg): -2.37 V
  3. Lithium (Li⁺/Li): -3.04 V
  4. Titanium (Ti²⁺/Ti): around -1.63 V for Ti²⁺/Ti
  5. Silver (Ag⁺/Ag): +0.80 V
  6. Gold (Au³⁺/Au): +1.50 V
  7. Tin (Sn²⁺/Sn): -0.14 V

Titanium is also pretty bad with -1.63 V but I never saw someone telling about his titanium driver oxidating into nothingness :laughing:

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The notion of not buying too many bits of kit this year has gone out of the window. Simgot EA500LM on the way.

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Anybody who can’t accept a preference is an ass. Especially since you tried so many configurations with both sets, if that’s where you ended up, good for and they can kick sand. Your ears, and brain interpretation, are all that matters🫡

You don’t mess around with their DIY set and altering nozzles and just find you preferred stock nozzle and play from that, right? Then I can absolutely see a preference to a set leading you to your conclusion that the driver is better.

I just have to wait till I get my own ears to both to come to my own conclusion, because there were people who said the EW200 driver was better than the EA500 driver and that I completely disagreed with after I heard both. But I would say EW200 had a better tuning (cause it had learned the lessons from EA500 and EW100 before it).

Once I played with the EA500 nozzles and hit a preference for me, it was a different game though. But use case and not fussing with nozzles and modding can lead to a completely different, and valid, conclusion.

Plus everyone doesn’t have to agree on every single set. Where is the fun in that?

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I think you nailed it right there… …both for the makers of iems and their listeners/consumers.

At my age, I don’t actually think I can credibly distinguish the differences between a $300 and kilobuck set. I’m more likely to appreciate a well tuned set (to my taste) regardless of price.

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That guys an a$$hole alright, man got no gratitude at all… People like these make me sick, they dont consider others situation and only care about themselves :face_vomiting: ive meet people like them and theyre very punchable, can’t stand them…

Regarding Kai, wishing him a speedy recovery and an indomitable immunity :muscle: he gonna only get stronger from now man

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This is exactly what I’m going to do at least until about 3 Khz :+1:

Edit: did that for the EA500 vs EA1000 and the 1000 is better in every way except for bass impact

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Its had some high praise for its staging technicalities and laid back tuning from Gizaudio and a few others but don’t think its found much traction. The price of admission ($3k) might have something to do with that.

Cool to see continued innovations with 1DD lately, twilight had a clever design.

I’m glad as well to read some others in this thread are innovating with larger DD’s. Still hoping we see the EX1000 platform resurrected someday, if not from Sony then somewhere else. I really regret sending my EX800 back, should belong in an IEM/headphone museum one day. I like the cable connector on it as well, feel like that should be the gold standard rather than the 2 pin popularity of today (Wasn’t Elysian introducing a new connector? think I saw it in one of your vids a long time back)

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Wow, I thought Singularity your favourite 1DD? And thought of it as potential upgrade to Twilight as some point

Mhhm…my museum

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The Twilight was a favorite of mine, especially for baritone voices, but I absolutely loathed the upright ear-rectangle fit. If they just tweaked the ergonomics, I’d buy that version in a heartbeat.

Also, finally ordered the 500LM since I couldn’t justify it unless I sold the OG 500.

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…meanwhile at Toecutter’s House:

Careful-Placement-Indiana-Jones

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Sony’s #1 fanboy @Rikudou_Goku woulda snagged it first.

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Toecutter will not waste time with Riku…

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Fit over time is no good (just long sessions) and mids are not great for vocals. It sems fine but then switch to twilight and the quality of mids is notable.
Twilight .
That set doesn’t fit very well either.
I listen to a proto of the abandoned collab w/Simgot more than any other DD

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Riku will have to pry these…

out of my dead hands

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What’s with single DDs and finicky shells? Singularity, twilight/turii, ie600 just to name a few

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Maybe every set has to have some minor flaw so they can keep selling new iems. :thinking:

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