Bad Guy Good Audio Rankings and stuff (under construction) (Part 2)

Cool man!

Heads up though, the tuning is severely different from your target (the anti-shout), see below:

Again, the main reason why the set is great to me is the staging, the wrap around feel.

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Penon/ISN definitely are good for zigging while everyone else zags. That H50 graph isn’t anything like any other IEM Elise has graphed!

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I’m kinda going into 2023 with an open non slave to graph mind.
1984

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Had problems you mean have. Anytime you need to pair a Penon Cable so that it sounds correct sounds like BS to me!
That’s just RED NUTS!

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That’s people just being stuck in their own echo chamber though. I wouldn’t buy that level of talk for it being more than ā€œyesā€ men like HBB said. Also how people ā€œshillā€ matters just as much as what they say. For example with HBB (not calling him a shill, just using that term for consistency), when he hyped the Softears Twilight and then heard the AMT set a week or two later, you could tell he felt sincerity about saying ā€œI wish I heard the Twilight after the AMT set and I wouldn’t have gone as hard about itā€. People who have the ability to reflect and tell you how it is, and even change their mind/opinion when needed, tells you a lot without saying it when it comes to listening to their opinions down the road.

The people on Penon threads have value because they are very passionate about a boutique brand that doesn’t have the same reach as others. But they do a disservice when it’s just ā€œevery product they put out is amazing and you should buy itā€ because likely no. You probably should not buy everything they put out.

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Same kinda thing just happened with Kiwi Ears.
They sent me a $35 set and had to know how good it was. The advertising i see now reflects that.
When i got it I had never even heard of it and they did not mention it.

Total surprise. It killed my own collab. They had to know I was gonna think that.
I’m not mad.
If I did anything else… in 6 months I woulda looked like my ears are fucked or my collabs are infecting my recs.

I do wish the AMT had come before Twiight. :v:

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This is why we respect you!

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Totally fair play, Chris. I’ll look forward to the release regardless, my friend. Just enjoy the holidays and the anticipation of the little one arriving!

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:smiley: You’re not the only one. Everytime I read that cringe cable stuff I feel like

I wish there’d be a filter that blocks out every post where the word cable appears.

Just today I did some REW measurements and thought why not measure the same IEM with the cheapest copper cable I can find and with the best cable I posses a XINHS pure silver one. And surprise they graphed exactly the same.

Let me say I don’t want to start a cable trashing topic here in this fine thread but sometimes some steam needs to be let off. :steam_locomotive:

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100% agree , I can hear a slight difference between cables SPC and OFCC and pair a OFCC with brighter IEM and SPC with darker. But sure as shit doesn’t need a Penon brand or whatever. I buy cables as sound jewelry.
I have a few $100 cables from Hakugei only because they look dope. The $20 SPC Nicehck sounds exactly the same.

I can second that ISN are unique and interesting.

I have both the H40 & H50 (completely different tunings). H40 has a more bassy analogue fun tuning, lacking in treble. The EST50 (their TOTL) as the big brother to the H40 clears some of that up.

They have a newly released H30 which I believe is supposed to be more neutral and is priced around Starsea money but I haven’t heard it yet.

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Are you hearing the same dimensional midrange and wrap-around stage width in the H50? It’s wild they managed that at that price.

That ā€œeffectā€ is holy grail for me in IEMs.

Pretty much this. My Venom cable is pricey but damn it looks nice.

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I have the same feeling with P1+. I get that wall of sound in front of me like a live performance or how speakers project sound.

I’ve heard holographic staging on Tea for example, what the P1+ does is different.

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Enhanced midbass :white_check_mark:
Slightly relaxed gaināœ…
Enhanced treble extensionāœ…

Looks good to me personally.
I just hope the 8k peak is a measurement artifact.

Yes :100: - the stage, imaging & mids are the key qualities - great for the price.

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PM reminder :wink:

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I got you bro. Black friday got em busy. I’ll get that card working for you

By the weird magic of Youtube I ended up on a cover of one of my Fiance’s favorite tracks.
This guy hits the note perfect. :notes: :ok_hand:

And drop a fucking GEM on EM :gift:

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I thought that was likely - thank you so much.

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