why would you return it though? it would be better to sell it with the same price rather than go through that hassle? I’m pretty sure someone is willing to get it off your hands.
Time will tell 
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Thanks, brotha! Appreciate you and all the efforts going into all your awesome collabs (Punch is low key potentially my favorite of the year).
More headphone reviews, when? 
- Sennheiser HE-1, let’s goooo
Time will tell
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@BearsKz Any updates on the Fatfreq situation? Hope you are otherwise doing well, and wish you and your team a happy holiday/new year too!
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Appreciate the thought.
And that’s probably what will end up happening. But selling it is a hassle as well.
Definitely won’t be at the same price though, but considering the potential shipping and whatnot, should arrive at around the same I suppose.
Overall, I just don’t want them to keep getting away with blatantly violating all possible written and unwritten rules, spitting on customers, and just continuing business as usual.
I definitely understand that people are tired of this. And are gladly leaving it as is and moving on. Which ultimately leads to this repeating imo.
I am tired as much. But nobody cares and will stand for my rights except me.
I will stop updating I guess, and will just deal with it as I will.
Audio Amigo’s upcoming review of FF customer service is probably where all this ends, until the inevitable next release or defrauded business.
I can’t know what’s happening behind the scenes and in the reviewer/collaborator community, but people must have got some satisfactory responses from FF about these situations I suppose.
Still immense respect to HBB for being vocal about it right from the start, that’s big and rare. But even he is ghosting me on the last couple direct questions about any reaction from FF. And that’s fair, their business side.
Just tells me that people are moving on, and FatFreq will sit it out long enough to not even have to issue a statement or apology. Which is sad.
I’ve tried my best and assisted in spreading the word as much as I could over these couple months. But I can only do so much.
Will just privately continue trying to get even one word from them, with any available means.
Very happy holidays guys, wishing you many good and cozy moments. I love this thread, and this hobby has been a great escape and joy for me. Let’s just enjoy the music
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I get your point but id rather sell it on my own than rely on them refunding what you paid, you already wasted a lot of time waiting for that item to arrive and i really believe you’ll waste even more time sending it back. Just my 2 cents.
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Nah im certainly not moving on untill FF delivers what i paid for, hopefully i can give an update soon but for now im just as stuck as i was, so no point to keep posting
The only update i currently have is that they seem to be responding quicker , within a few minutes sometimes now. But that might be just be luck.
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There’s always a huge risk when shipping through local post. It’s a hit-or-miss, which is why I always ship with priority whenever I can to avoid this kind of hassle and stress. Fatfreq could have handled it better, but that’s where they are really lacking.
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What name did he sell the iem under? BASS_0Range?
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Sudharshan Sundar
BASS_0Range
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Added…this list is really depressing to maintain…
Abyss: Re-selling cheap cables for dozens of times more.
BASS_0Range/Sudharshan Sundar: scammed people out of at least 1 500 USD.
BGVP: Lied about the DN2 having a Beryllium DD when it was a PET driver.
Campfire Audio: Terrible QC with the Solaris and when people reacted negatively to that on Head-fi, their rep started locking threads. (Also used Bellsing drivers in it.)
DCS Audio: Threatened a 7-figure lawsuit towards GoldenSound for a negative review of one of their DACs.
DQSM: Made an account on Head-fi and wrote positive reviews and defended their products from negative ones.
Elysian Acoustic: Jay got screwed out of his warranty time due to lies. Similar with HBB/BGGAR with delays and excuses.
Empire Ears: Jack Vang (V.P.) pocketed the demo unit money from Bad Guy Good Audio Reviews. Deleted posts about missing BA from customer.
FATFreq: Extremely long waiting time for the Deuce, ghosting paid customers but answers quickly to new ones. Customers that should have been eligible for pre-order bonus, did not get anything. 2pin design faulty and they only revised it after many broken units, leaving old buyers with design faulty units. Not delivering items worth $10,000+ to a business for 1.5 years after full payment
Hidizs: Stealth revised MP145
Hisenior: Stealth revised Mega5EST
Ksearphone: Bad QC, horrible CS, refusal to replace faulty products, “bait and switched” Bell-LBS for Bell-LBBs.
KZ: unsoldering the BAs doesn’t affect the sound, DQ6 having DDs that are glued shut, claiming their MST driver is an electrostatic driver, MST driver that is not audible, Tyvan Lam (CEO) trying to bribe HBB into destroying another company’s driver claims. CRA stealth revision. TRYING TO PAY REVIEWERS FOR REVIEWS (1000 usd offered to DMS).
KBEAR/CCZ: Re-releasing the same iem over and over and managing to placebo “reviewers”. Claimed the BElieve used a pure Beryllium driver, it is only coated. Plume using Bellsing not their own drivers. (Discontinued after DeltaFyre dissected it.)
LH labs: Larry Ho stole $6 million with mostly help from Head Fi. Kickstarter scammers and stole Campfire Audio design
IMR: CEO ran a scam called Trinity on kickstarter where customers never received their products and the money was used to fund/develope IMR.
Moondrop: Urged their fans in China to “attack” Dunu.
Penon: What do they not do wrong?
Seeaudio: Bravery limited edition being re-released in different color
Senfer: 150ohm earbud was claimed to use Beryllium driver, it does not.
Shozy: P20 driver lie (Planar, not 14.5mm DD)
Shuoer: Tape driver lie (MST, not Electrostatic). Changed the tuning of the EJ07M KL from the originally marketed tuning by HBB.
SIVGA: Censoring bad reviews
Soundcore: TRYING TO PAY REVIEWERS FOR REVIEWS (DMS).
Tanchjim: Stealth changed the Oxygen driver
TRN: multi-core cables not having all wires soldered, EMX driver lie
Urbanfun: As the YBF-ISS014 hype went up, the price did as well, lied about the price increase being needed to fix bad QC and it was RNG on whether you got the Beryllium coated DD or the “noble metal” version.
YinYoo: Stealth changing tuning/driver, bad qc, review tinkering. (banned on Head-fi)
I am tempted to make the opposite list, one with “clean” brands…but im not sure how many would be there. I havent heard anything bad about Shanling or Simgot for example but i be hard pressed to come up with more…
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Sorry to bother you, but can I please have some more context on the Abyss entry?
Put me down for whatever that ends up becoming, honestly any one of your projects the 51b kicks ass! 
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tl:dr abyss is a part of JPS Labs, who make absurd audiofool cables that they sell for insane prices
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Thanks guys, though I know that they make expensive cables. I know who they are. I wanted to know if there was something specific outside of that that would have garnered the ire to make such a list. Making audio gear that cost more money than others doesn’t do it for me because we don’t know the R&D costs that went into such a product, etc…
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I agree in the world of expensive cables JPS Labs seem pretty reasonable!
I could be wrong but I swear that Abyss got into a dustup with a reviewer or showgoers over the headphones and cables. Wasn’t that where the drama came from with Abyss?
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there was something with ASR at some point but by that point I’d put them in the basket of companies I’d never do business with so didn’t focus on it.
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