šŸ”¶ Beyerdynamic T1 Gen2

Just copped a gen2 for $300. Looking for a Valhalla 2 now.

I wonder if should still consider the ATH R70X/HD600 I was looking at, before I found this crazy deal.

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Thatā€™s a great price! The lowest Iā€™ve seen is $350.

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The pain! Whereā€™d you score the deal?
Iā€™d say that you should listen to them and then go from there. Both of those headphones should be somewhat complimentary to the T1.2 rather than duplicative.

And when you decide they arenā€™t for you, I have an R70X + a bit of cash to trade you (I have two, will never have zero).

Beyerdynamic balanced XLR on sale!

Reddit.

I had the 6XX for 5 years and got rid of them last year because I never gelled with them. So that kinda took away my interest in the 600s. Itā€™d be awesome to hear the R70X, if I regret the T1s Iā€™ll reach out, but I doubt it lol

What do you guys use for tube amp? I got an Asgard 3, Yamaha AS700 and an mCTH currently, Iā€™ve been wanting a Valhalla 2 for so long, but I was also too into planars to give that a try. Now Iā€™m back with dynamics after buying this and the K702.

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Iā€™m a fan of the Xduoo hybrid tube amp series. Good power and flexibility. I specifically love them for my 600 ohm 880s and 990s, excellent at taming those highs. Iā€™ve also wanted to hear the Valhalla 2 for quite a while.

im not saying you should get the 600ā€™s, but they are quite good for certain things. but, and this varies a lot in opinion, i feel they need a tube in the equation. there are lots who like them on solid state, i am not one of them. there are those who like them with gooey tubeness, i am not one. i like them with my bottlehead crack with the speedball mod. takes a little of the tubeness out and adds some agility(ie less decay). but i like them even better on my lyr3. the lyr3 almost completely lifts the veil from the 600 series. i donā€™t know why, maybe the sheer horsepower it has combined with the tube. anyways, just something to consider still down the road.

Iā€™m ready.
If you can do a full plunge on a dedicated amp for these high impedance cans and really want ā€œfull tubeā€ I say go to BHC+SB if budget allows. If it doesnā€™t or assembly/availability is a challenge: DV or xDuoo TA-26 I think is the clone. Valhalla doesnā€™t get as much love so it can be found for good value in secondary. It is more polite for an OTL and lacks flexibility of the hybrids. I love those affordable xDuoo hybrids for what they are - but if you have multiple rigs you should go for a full OTL cartoonish type. Lyr 3 another mega-powerful all-arounder hybrid, butā€¦ If you donā€™t need versatility - go for the gusto.

I like how you think. I donā€™t quite want to spend BHC money, since Iā€™ve been saving that for a Bifrost 2 upgrade in my speaker system, but Ill check out the Val2 and SW51.

this, lyr 3 is a bit different and may be more affordable to some while performing well, dark voice if you want a wetter more tubier sound for cheaper, and if you want a beefy hybrid tube ampā€¦ id say liquid platinum

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Copped a DarkVoice with some tubes for $150 and itā€™s been bliss with the T1.2. I donā€™t think I want to use it with my SS or Hybrids anymore, at least not until I swap out my Asgard for a Lyr lol

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Trying to listen to some sound demos comparing the beyer line and found this:

The T1 here sound the worst by LONG shot.
Likeā€¦there has top be something going wrong there right?
I donā€™t hear any redeeming qualities in this demo.

They sounded a pretty flat to me in other demos, but not to this extent?

Sound Demos may not prove all that fruitfulā€¦ Do we know which generation T1? Do we know the impedance of classic series used? Source gear?

In shopping the Beyer line, what are you seeking?

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In some vids they say, not in that one, but it doesnā€™t really matter.
All the models there are being tested on the same gear, song and rig.

You might not be able to tell how it sounds per se, but you can compare them.
I own the DT880 so I know what hose sound like, so that gives me a reference point.
The T1s there seem to have less sub bass extension and sound less alive in the highs and mids to me.

I like the 880s, but I am looking for just a little more bass, more punch, more body.
And slightly high mids would be a bonus. The next ā€œobviousā€ choice then would be to stay in the family and go higher end, but in this one AND the other sound demons I had comparing the two, these seem less capable in every aspect?

Itā€™s just this particular demo is much more pronounced than others to me. But the impressions I got were the same across demos. I have trouble wrapping my mind around that though.
The T1s are like 5 times the price at this moment and I donā€™t see any reason why you would get them over the DT880s? The 880s sounded consistently better to me across demos.

They might be mixing high impedance versions with lower ones and not adapting for volume, but that would only make them louder. They wouldnā€™t change their signature.

Mon, Iā€™ve got my girlfriend & I each a set of 600ohm 880s. Previously I didnā€™t like them that much, but I hadnā€™t run then on a Singxer SA1 until earlier this evening. Now Iā€™m liking them bunches. Itā€™s odd to me though that the 880s arenā€™t as interesting on the Topping A70 Pro. The 880s donā€™t like the Xduoo TA26 either it seems. My 600ohm 990s love both of those amps. I compared the 880s & 990s side by side on the TA 26 & the 880s sounded small vs the 990s. The 880s seem a bit boring on the A70 Pro.

Im not sure if Ive used the 990s on the SA1. Ill have to do another comparison 880 vs 990 with the SA1. The 880s like it though, for sure.

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