🔶 Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 R

[NewbieOne]

@Falenkor

its one of those things that comes with time in this hobby, knowing what you appreciate and what you don’t.

Indeed. And that’s sometimes a long journey of discovery, isn’t it. And you can’t really tell what you like until you’ve listened to at least some of what’s out there, so you have to get started at some point.

@Falenkor

I mean, I personally wouldn’t do that as they are fine regularly just can heavily benefit from a pad swap. Hifiman are rather fragile as is so opening them up or modifying them can be on the riskier side of things.

With a B-stock 400SE for 100 bucks I probably wouldn’t mind trying if I felt somewhat confident doing it. But three hundred? Not a chance. Not when that’s what I make on some weeks, and before taxes.

@Falenkor

I do wish the tygrs were more mid friendly honestly.

As far as I can tell there’s a specific pair of Dekoni pads that could bridge the gap, just don’t remember which. Pity these phones don’t respond to EQ too well. Definitely not going to tinker with them, at least for now.

If beyer would have made a gamer variation to the DT 880 like the tygr instead it would be more appealing since the DT 880 doesn’t have recession in the mids(which mids being recessive can be a very large deal breaker for some)

… Though the thought of buying a donor 880/600 and transplanting its drivers into the Tygrs certainly is tempting.

@Falenkor

Id encourage tinkering with some EQ see if perhaps something there can tell you what your feeling thats missing.

Will do. I’ll start from whatwasthatguysnamewhohasalltheprofiles’s site and see where that takes me.

@Falenkor

if we compare something like a sennheiser to say… a hyperx or turtle beach? The levels of clarity, as long as the sennheiser is properly driven with a cleaner source, is beyond a 50% increase usually… I wish headsets were better as it would save my wallet for sure

One useful anomaly I’ve discovered here in Pierogiland is that AD900X with a mike is cheaper than AD900X without. Meaning ADG1X. Their tech support has confirmed it’s the same headphone, it matches the same parameters on the website, and yet it’s like a quarter cheaper. Used to be a third before the sellers probably caught whiff of what was going on.

@Falenkor

thats of course the most ideal price range past that it gets rather crazy.

Well, my position right now is that I got a degree to finish, I like to travel, I need a new GPU, and a new CPU+mobo too, and then an online freelance business is a bottomless money sinkhole for marketing and CPD. You could easily spend as much money on marketing — and need to — as a medium-sized brick-and-mortar business. So there’s priorities, you can’t have it all. But $300 or $400 I can justify. Maybe five or six hundred if I knew that was endgame.

@Falenkor

Though, as for budget goes if someone isn’t plunging down the rabbit hole? Go with Schiits asgard 3 + modius call it a day less you really want that clean sound then jotunheim is fine or some other company like topping or something.

In this part of the world Schiit doesn’t happen every day but there’s all the Topping you need.

There’s a used Modi 2 for 190 bucks, which I guess might not be the best pick from that price range, and Jotunheim for $450, but that’s outta my league. I keep my notifications on, though.

I’m kinda looking at D50s for a little under $300, but that’s still quite a lot.

If I wanted a good bang for the buck, Creative’s own outlet sells G6 for $80. If I had just my old stereo speakers and the 'phones, this would be in and the Sound Blaster Z would be out, but I use 4.0 these days. Finding a 5.1 amp or DAC is a nightmare.

I suppose I could keep the Z for speakers and add a G6 for headphones or even run the 4.0 from the G6 via a $50 optical-to-5.1 decoder or $100 extractor (even from the GPU via HDMI), but that probably means going through some sort of very basic integrated DAC.

Probably makes more sense to just splurge out on an AE-9 or X-7 or something, to have both a dedicated headphone out and a row of jacks for 5.1/7.1. I saw an AE-9 for $200 a while ago but was too slow.

[NewbieOne]

Well, so I decided to skip my headphone amp due to the grain (which varied depending on the cable used and the general route, as in what through) and go straight from the Blaster’s dedicated headphone output, albeit I needed an extension cable for that and ended up using a cheap phone/mike hub that came with my friend’s gaming speakers (kind of looks like the cheaper the cable, the more resistant it is do static/distortion/whatever from the PC). Turned off literally everything via Command and… listening to 3D Classics via Amazon Music in plain stereo mode ended up being a truly, massively epic experience. As I am typing this, Dies Irae is playing (voice sounds somewhat recessed but you can make out the individual words), preceded by Also sprach zarathustra and the Valkyries and wow…

I’m not sure it would be possible to get a better experience from your average cinema. Also makes you think about the greatest and most epic movie soundtracks back from the time they still made good movies, i.e. before we were born. Again, truly, massively epic. But it takes a while of getting used to.

[NewbieOne]

I’ve been listening to country tracks this evening and boy, is the bass amazing.

https://music.amazon.com/albums/B0757SZNHH?trackAsin=B0757TBXQP&ref=dm_sh_8db6-55a4-5232-c978-c4cca

Edit: And the strings even more so. They are eerily natural. I physically pull back to dodge them in some cases when take me by surprise.

[NewbieOne]

Another one:

https://music.amazon.com/albums/B073LRWKRV?trackAsin=B073T2LFV1&ref=dm_sh_b9c7-fcca-7518-2197-119af

The Wexford Carol by Loreena McKennitt. Listening to this with SBX set to 100% and Vocal selected from the SB Command Equalizer list of profiles. Directly from SBZ, no additional amplification. I was blown away.

There are also dedicated gaming profiles, which seem to be making some difference in how games feel, exciting at first listen, but I haven’t made up my mind on them yet. But the Vocal profile really does the job for vocals.

[Michael]

Review from Resolve here.

Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 R Review - Best gaming headphones under $200?

[Falenkor]

I can agree on that and I got a laugh outta the “surprisingly this headphone is more detailed than the 900 pro x”. Been telling people that and they think im nuts… nah, 900 pro x just isn’t the most detailed headphone. The issues with the bass there are the same as in the DT 990 but 990 is worse in that regard… its easily fixable through a small amount of EQ to the upper bass… you can also balance it out. For the value? as a gamer, its one of the absolute best headphones you can get next to as he says. the 560s

[PikeBeyerHead]

Hi, First post but just had to say have swapped the disc pads from my new tygr with my dt880 600 ohm as pictured and have to say am amazed at the transformation. The muddy bass and bleed into the mids has completely disappeared from the tygr. Sound is very, very similar to the dt880 now but with fuller bass. The dt880 still pips the tygr for all out detail, decay and realism but is the perfect compromise especially with poor recordings and metal which works better with the V shaped sound. Excellent tweak that cost me nothing👍

[j.d.lafleur]

I personally think the DT 900 Pro X is as detailed as the HD600. I don’t think it’s lacking detail anywhere and is generally “better” than the HD600 in my opinion, for my taste, and my style. (With EQ of course)

[Falenkor]

well beyers usually have a trait of being “overly-detailed” as it is. 900 pro to my ear has been one of the least in this regard. Mostly because its also just not as bright as the usual beyer

[Mackbir]

I’ve come to the conclusion I should buy an open back headset for simracing and I’m leaning towards the Tygr300 r. Though simracing is a game my Arctis Pro’s seem like the wrong choice for the sounds of engines, tires and other cars around me. I don’t play any other games. I prefer my 5.1 speakers but I cannot always use that. Can anyone steer me in the right direction? BTW I don’t care if I have to buy a separate mic or an amp. I jsut want to keep the headset itself under $500. Thanks

[Blackrao]

I modded the Tygr 300 R by changing pads and the internal filters trying out elite dekoni earpads, foam kits, and DIY materials at home to try and get a more balanced treble. It was really fun trying all these materials out and I liked my end result but will surely try more things in the future.

Beyerdynamic Tuning Mods - Taming the Treble ft Tygr 300 R and Dekoni Earpads/Foams/DIY

[r1_theone]

Greetings again

After 1 year of daily use, tye tygr s ear pads got tired , now my ears touch the drivers.

So the question is what ear pads to take, wouldn t mine to improve the game sound but certainlly don t want to make it worse.

[Falenkor]

@r1_theone

So the question is what ear pads to take, wouldn t mine to improve the game sound but certainlly don t want to make it worse.

replace with stock EDT 990 VB or Dekoni Elite velour if you want more comfort and thicker pads may also be able to swing perforated as well

[r1_theone]

Thank s.
From your experience, wich one had the most durability?

[Falenkor]

@r1_theone

From your experience, wich one had the most durability?

Dekoni can easily outlast the pads from Beyerdynamic… its just that they are much thicker overall so the comfort changes… itll also slightly alter the sound. If your goal though is to keep your ears off those drivers, then yeah absolutely go with the dekoni.

[TimpTim44]

@Falenkor Been thinking of that for my DT880/600. Dekoni Suedes, correct?

[Falenkor]

@TimpTim44

DT880/600. Dekoni Suedes

I mean, if you want warm and darker sounding sure lol.

[TimpTim44]

Heh, heh! I wondered if they might do that. I do love the stock sound and detail I am getting now and can add a little bass with the Loki when needed. Just thinking of what to use for eventual replacement and have seen comments about the suedes. I’d appreciate any ideas you have. Thanks

[lrjshabaz]

Gosh, I’ve loved the feel of Brainwavz Suedes — I look forward to trying Dekoni suedes when I have the need and the price is right.

[Falenkor]

Personally speaking? Favorite pad hands down for the beyer is those suedes from dekoni. The brainwavz are… alright for the most part but just aren’t quite… there… they don’t have that superb comfortable quality like feel of normal suede but these? the only better suede I had in house was of course like… audeze vegan and ZMF but those cost a fortune.

@lrjshabaz

I look forward to trying Dekoni suedes when I have the need and the price is right.

can always do what I did, get them second hand like mint… can get them at like… $25 - $35 ish range.

as long as your okay with the signature it will provide your okay… its quite different… much like if you ordered a hybrid or something… its going to rather drastically change things up