nope, more like for some reason a headphone thats cheap yet for some reason capable of striking well above its price point. People take that thing over the flagship beyers too.
its one of those with some crazy technical performance such as the level of detail it can provide. Tygr and its speaker like presentation and laser imaging is the same as usually thats not seen to higher price brackets
Quick impression:
Listening to Depeche Mode’s Painkiller, I can hear the clock-like sound in the beginning travelling from left to right to left, something I haven’t noticed before (maybe I haven’t listened to it often enough). Sounds are popping out as if they were right next to me. The treble, unlike the T1 2nd and DT880 seems just right and not painful. I think this will be my new go-to multimedia/gaming open back headphone.
speaking purely on comfort, these are probably the most comfortable pair of headphones i’ve ever put on
i wear size 7 5/8" hats so i got a big melon for a head and on top of that i wear glasses. it’s a tough life finding comfy headphones that i can wear all day. i had to bend my 6xx in order to make them work but these… these work straight out of the box for me (well i actually bought it used lol). perfect amount of clamp, 0 hotspots, and the cups don’t trap heat in. i’m in love honestly, haven’t touched my 6xx since getting these!
I’m sure I’m going to be very happy with it, considering I’ve been a speakers guy all my life. This and the fact of being my first real headphones I’m sure are going to make the Tygrs forever special to me.
I feel for you, dude. Same problem here. I’ve never been able to use closed cans with leather pads or even velours, well, at least in the <$50 range that all of them have probably belonged to.
Hey, guys, I got a question. I’ve read that the Tygrs don’t scale a great lot along with amplification but they do scale some. Has anybody listened to them with different amps (or vs no amp) and heard the difference? What about DACs?
Velour: Stock-sounding & Sterile (Relative to 2 pads). Pillowy-soft
C. Suede: Rumbly & impactful. vocals & mid-instruments 70-80% of Velour’s cleanliness. 20-30% becomes warm/reverberated. For my ears, I feel like I’m in a concert hall. Tempur-Pedic-soft
Fen. Sheepskin: Bright & Pain-free? Mid-forward? (Depends on music) Percussion sounds crispy, Bass & Sub-bass are not muddied. Leather Couch-soft & smells really nice.
Music:
Velour
C. Leather
Fen. Sheepskin
Edit: I forgot to mention that overall, my favorite pads with the Tygrs are definitely the Elite Velours. I really enjoy the tuning of the headphones themselves, and the pads are more comfortable to wear in comparison to the stock pads (for my head at least). If I had to make an analogy, the Elite Velours are like Water, whereas the C. Suedes are like Coffee, and the Fen. Sheepskin are Hot Chocolate. I really like Coffee and Hot Chocolate, but it takes a lot of effort to find the right balance of bitter, cream, and sweet. At some point I kinda get tired of drinking either Coffee or Chocolate. Water on the other is not only essential, but it is effortless to drink & dispense. Therefore, while it is a pleasure to listen with the two pads, there is nothing more reliable than to listen with the Elite Velours.
I listened to my tygrs with no amp, with the zen dac v1 and with the geshelli archel 2.5 pro. The difference in scaling wasn’t very big. More important is, that the tygrs benefits from some extra power. I always had the feeling that the ifi didn’t had enough power for the tygrs. With the geshelli everything sounded tighter and had better definition
Just after some clarification, my 300r turned up today sound absolutely amazing paired with the V2 ifi zen dacamp, not needed but does compliment it well. Now I’ve watched various unboxings however they all seemed to come with a bag to put the headphones in however mine didn’t and the Jack adaptor already connected. They sound fine just got me a little nervous these are a returned pair?
I’m from the UK if this helps as the packaging may differ from various countries. Can anybody confirm if they got the protective bag with their pair and or if the adaptor was connected ?
I’ve ordered a few and none of them to my knowledge cam with a bag of sorts… would be nice though… might have been a thing back in the day or something… I would encourage asking beyer about it
I bought mine from B-stock directly from Beyer in August 2020 and it came with a bag of sorts, as well as the adapter. Can’t remember whether the adapter was conncted, though.
Mine arrived a while ago and while the quality certainly is there, I ended up having two family members blind test them against a $30 pair of closed cans… and all three of us liked the the latter more. The other two people seemed to be in agreement that the Tygr was more cultured but they ultimately liked the $30 piece better, as it was livelier and overall more convincing. I think if I had to be very honest about my strict preference and preference alone — not judgment but preference — I’d probably have to select the $30 ‘gaming’ cans too. It could be just that I prefer closed cans to open cans, though. I’ve tested this possibility by simply putting my palms on the cans while listening to the Tygr in order to make it ‘closed’. And indeed, that way I probably liked them better (just wasn’t 100% sure, but I rarely am full 100% sure of anything). Logically, though, this probably can’t all come down to closed vs open, or at least so I think. I could still buy an MMX 300 (2nd gen) and/or a HE400SE just to check (closed Beyer vs open non-Beyer).
Sometimes we prefer familiar over new. In my experience when I get a new headphone I’m not blown away by the new one as compared to the older one.
Over time I come to appreciate the new one more than I had initially.
However this doesn’t always hold true. Even over time sometimes my initial impression stays the same.
To complicate things further; I often come to appreciate certain headphones but in different ways. One headphone I prefer in some areas but not as much in other areas.
So, I can appreciate all of my headphones even though I prefer some more than others.
I’ve come to the conclusion that there is no 1 best headphone.
To give an example; I own the Philips FIDELIO x2 and the Audeze lcd2c.
Two headphones that are completely different beasts.
Yet after my ear-brain adjusts to the x2, I can continue to listen to it with full enjoyment ; and vice versa with the Audeze lcd2c.
Curious… what did you drive them off of? Hard to believe a set of $30 cans best this even remotely considering the aspects this headphone provides especially in terms of imaging which isn’t found till much higher brackets(or other beyers respectively) however we do have our preferences.
well, if your comparing closed to open and are primarily identifying that the $30 pair just has better bass… then that should be obvious since closed naturally is bassier and just has better low ends usually… tygr is designed V shaped its not a bass lovers headphone though.
depends on what your looking for in particular… mmx is a sharper V shape than the tygr just closed… 400se is a neutral brighter cheaper sundara approach… just with more low end
usually when I get a new headphone… I know better than to just sit with it for a day or two… you need to mentally adjust to the new set of cans in terms of its sound and comfort… a 5 minute test literally tells you… for the most part very little except if a headphone has some glaring portions of the signature such as very bright treble or heavily bassy. I tend to give it atleast 2 weeks before I decide if I actually prefer the new cans more… at the same time… source is also important… even in tygrs case, I have ran into several motherboards and small power sources that just make the tygrs sound bad.
I appreciate the x2 personally, but I hate the flabby bass and the imaging is meh… the rest is alright though… however, I hands down take a tygr or nighthawk over that x2 any day of the week personally… lcd2c though is incredible… just pricey
This happen to me when I was getting into the hobby and I was trying my first open back. I was looking for bass and treble. Was disappointed at first glance. It took me 1 week of using exclusively the open back with a decent setup to realize the difference between a piece of equipment.
I always compare this ‘hobby’ to another which is also my trade, wine.
We tend to get an enthusiastic community of true believers here who want to be in.
However, there’s always a reason that a “consumer taste” exists. I can pour plenty of people highly-rated and expensive wines that they will dislike — particularly if they’re price-blind. So it goes here, it’s startling to the folks on the “inside”, and nobody is right or wrong.
Brain burn is also such a real thing. I still listen from time-to-time to one pair of headphones that sound 100% bizarrely wrong to me at first and after 20 minutes in a genre that suits them - I can’t put them away.