šŸ”¶ Campfire Solaris

Was this on the Atlas? For my first week with them, I had to be overly cautious when inserting them to avoid driver flex. After about a week, it seems to have gone away and Iā€™ve seen other people report the same.

No, the Solaris. Sorry, didnā€™t mention it ā€˜cos itā€™s the Solaris thread, I just came plowing in with my opinion :rofl:

Never heard the Atlas before

No, thatā€™s why I asked. I assumed it was the Solaris, but I hadnā€™t heard anyone else mention that issue before. I did see it first-hand with the Atlas, and saw a few others posting similar issues. Driver flex is a weird sensation. You know the iem is deep in your ear, and you have ample volume, but the sound comes out muffled if at all. I can easily see someone picking up the Atlas, quickly jamming them in their ears, and thinking they were terrible if they didnā€™t know better

Ah cool. I wonder if itā€™s certain IEMs with certain ear types - just the wrong combo for certain people.

Never experienced driver flex though, well not that Iā€™m aware of. I looked it up to find out and despite two or three different descriptions Iā€™m still not entirely sure what it actually is or what it sounds/feels like (I canā€™t even figure out if itā€™s something you should hear or feel haha)

It mainly happens with iems that arenā€™t able to relive pressure buildup made from a good seal or donā€™t have proper venting, so you most likely wouldnā€™t have experienced it with the solaris. The atlas has a larger dynamic driver with somewhat inadequate venting imo that leads to the driver getting restricted or misaligned depending on the seal. Think of something similar to either electrostatics or thin diaphragm planars having driver flex or crinkle when a seal is made on your head and you push on the sides

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To bring things back on topic a little more, I was using the Shure SE846 and happy for years. In a trip to NYC I stopped by Audio46 and listened to a few of the latest gen IEMs. Walked away with the Solaris, it was on another level vs the SE846.

The wind-in-the-port issue means I had to sell them, but I blame the Solaris for sending me on a new IEM journey years after I thought Iā€™d found my endgame :rofl:

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Lol yeah, I am just getting into higher end iems as I have really always been a headphone person, but this canjam trip for me was pretty much just trying iems since I had heard all the headphones before lol

High end iems have come a long way, they just move too quickly for me to keep up with everything going on lol. I recall being impressed by the 846 awhile ago

Thanks @M0N. So itā€™s closer in practice to ā€œdriver inflexibleā€, by which I mean the seal ends up preventing the driver from moving as it should?

Pretty much accurate :+1:

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CanJam in London last year was where I replaced the Solaris. Itā€™s been more and more ever since. Stupid Solaris, I should have never listened to them!

I shouldnā€™t have any problems with wind in the port syndrome as I only use them indoors :+1:
Out of interest what did you replace them with?

Ah, youā€™ll be absolutely golden then, theyā€™re a great-sounding IEM.

I initially replaced them with the 64 Audio U18t, but I have those and a few others now. Not because the U18t wasnā€™t good enough (itā€™s an amazing IEM for which Iā€™ve since ordered custom tips), but because I caught ā€œthe bugā€ again and have been enjoying experimenting with different sounds.

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How did you find the U18t stacked up against the Solaris? as both the U18t and a8000ā€™s are x2+ the price I can get the Solaris for :grimacing:

Itā€™s worth lol

The Solaris has, IMO, slightly better texture to the bass. As has been said many times before, thereā€™s something about DD bass that just isnā€™t the same as BA, no matter how well-tuned. So on that level, I think the Solaris takes it. More impact, more slam, more textured and just a bit more natural sounding.

For everything else, though, the U18t is more suited to my tastes. The midrange is excellent. However where it truly shines, at least for me, is the treble. Iā€™m not a detail freak and treble often annoys me and fatigues my ears/brain. I donā€™t usually chase sparkle, because I find it becomes annoying once youā€™re over the ā€œwow, so much detailā€ phase. The U18t is different though. The best word I can think of to describe the treble is ā€œsweetā€. Smooth implies itā€™s recessed, but sweet is better because it describes that itā€™s present and noticeable, but not tiring. Loads of air and it never really tires me out (although it can show up on poorly recorded tracks, but lots of things can get a bit excitable when this happens).

Itā€™s a huge price jump though, so as always, itā€™s all about what is important to each listener. For me though, it was worth it, I really like the U18t and never regretted selling the Solaris, as nice as I find the sound on the Campfire flagship.

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I need those xD

Thank you for your honest opinion I appreciate it :smiley: all though iā€™m not sure my bank balance will lolā€¦hopefully I can listen to them along with the a8000 and a few others at CanJam UK and decide on which is the best bang for buck :+1: maybe the Tia Trio also :thinking:

Cool - see you at CanJam UK then. Trying to organise to meet up with some of the folks over on Head-Fi so feel free to hit me up on here if you want to have some people to hang out with for drinks on any of the days :smiley:

Sorry - will stop derailing the thread now - more Solaris opinions please!!

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Side track hi-jack ā€¦. not sure if Unique Melody will be a CanJam UK, but something to check out if yā€™all are going.

Cool sounds good :smiley:

Donā€™r worry too much about that as most threads end up that way on here in a good way lol