Darkvoice 336SE tube rolling

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Just got another Bad Boy (rebranded) and am anxious to compare it to the real deal. The getter flash on the Motorola is sick.

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Canā€™t go wrong with Tung Sol pulling double dutiesā€¦ 7236 & 6SN7GT Mouse Ears

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Curious on which Mundorf caps you used on your amp, thereā€™s some out there at $500 a piece!

Not sure if this goes here but is there an official Darkvoice Amp thread?

Iā€™m thinking this is it. Welcome :blush:

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Yeah, closest thing there is to an official thread. Itā€™s too big to turn it into the official too.

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Well, seems like thereā€™s a lot of mods and tube rolling talk here, so yeah ā€¦go for itā€¦

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Just got a new tube to replace the new stock Tung Sol
Sylvania 6SN7GTA
Not sure, probably it is from 1950sā€¦at least this is what ive read about them.
From first impressions I like them more than the new tung sol, but canā€™t really tell what has changed now :joy:

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Itā€™ll take a few weeks until they settle in to your amp, then youā€™ll notice the differences better.

To the modders hereā€¦

One of my LED doesnā€™t light up sometimes, itā€™s the left channel one. I opened her up to look inside and it was out. Flipped the power switch on and off a few times and itā€™d come on! Put her back together and then nothing off. ā€¦ lol. Any ideas, or should I just swap her out with a replacement.


Okā€¦ So Iā€™m gonna try and discharge the resistors and see if that helps, never done that before but was told it was so easy, a caveman could do it. You tap the resistors in question with another one and done ā€¦ Right. So weā€™ll see how that goes.

Question for Darkvoice owners. Whatā€™s the difference in the little tube and the big tube? Pre amp and power tube? When rolling do you change both? Or one or the other? Does it matter?

Pre-tube (small one) makes biggest difference in sound. Power tubeā€™s effect is much smaller, but still noticeable. Brand new Pre-tubes often come with a buzz and need more burn-in time.

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@WaveTheory Does burn in vary? How long should one burn in a tube? Im assuming just leave the amp on as long youā€™re beside it for like a few days?

Yes. I bought a brand new Tung-Sol that needed about 72 hours before the buzz subsided enough to disappear for most music. A tried a Shuguang and its buzz disappeared in about 2 or 3 hours.

48-72 hours before real listening can begin, on average, I would say. Most tubes will also sweeten as they age through normal use.

Most of the heat comes from the power tube, and fortunately thatā€™s not where the buzz/hum tends to come from. To burn in a pre, pull out the power tube, leave the pre plugged in, and leave the unit on for 72ish hours. Very low risk of any issues there.

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@WaveTheory Gotcha. Wanted to make sure it was safe to walk away from. LOL

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Power tube believe or not can make a huge difference as much as the preamp tube. 6as7g, warm and holographic, 7236, solid state sound fast and precise, 6080 warm and quite, nice dark backgroundā€¦ So yeah, donā€™t skip rolling the power tubes

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6080 - Low Gain
6AS7G - Medium Gain
7236/5998 - High Gain

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Actually all of those sound really good. I was looking at the Shungang Natural Sound ones for the preamp as well.

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