Itâs a boost in bass and also a slight bump for treble perhaps around the 10k range? I couldnât quite tell from the show floor
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Oh so theyâre EQing it for fun not for a flat response. Weird. 
Thatâs normal for ifi imo lol
Can we get a separate thread for this stack?
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Sure can do, one sec. Although I donât know much about it yet, so actually I might wait
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Yeah, info on this is pretty scarce.
Agreed, though with a XD-05 and TA-10, I donât know that Iâd worry about the DAC. Probably would just add the AMP, relieving the 05 for just portable use.
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Iâve actually visited the audiologist just this past November. Iâve got perfect hearing up to 17khz. I Never said I couldnât hear a difference, between Beats and better made headphones that I own. I ask for insight in how much of an improvement to BT headphone audio we can realistically expect. There are BT headphones that cost 80 bucks that sound better than Beats, Bose 700 or Sony WH1000xm3, Zeos has reviewed them. Are the Pandaâs 300 dollars better? That is what I was asking. The mere sight of the letters B. E. A. T. S. causes everyone in audiophile forums to begin foaming at the mouth in a rage. Sorry to tell you guys, some people like boomy, sloppy, bleeding into the mids, Bass. I have a friend, he bought a new TV, he had it on vibrant mode with the backlight cranked. I calibrated his TV. He told me to put it back, he prefers the bright colors, âit really pops thatâs why I bought this TVâ. Him enjoying himself the way he chooses doesnât make him less than I, or me better at watching TV then he. I did however convince him to not go back, but it was only by playing very specific scenes in movies where I could show crushed blacks and flip modes to a properly calibrated screen. Then I told him to keep it for a week to get acclamated and if he felt the same after we could change it back. Most people donât have multiple high end headphones to A/B compare with quality source material so when they hear louder, and more bass, with decent isolation they like it over the thin, tinny, uncomfortable headphones that they got at Walmart.
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Good point actually. When your reference is âcheap and shittyâ then âexpensive and not goodâ is definetly an upgrade.
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Iâve listened to a pair of Beats during an Apple camp (free class for kids) that I took my son to (I think it was for Garage Band).
Beats arenât as bad as the wrap they get from the headphone world. I wouldnât buy a pair because so many better choices exist, but theyâre not the worst.
I think the hate for Beats is equal parts knowing that better choices exists for less money (ubiquity due to marketing is part of the frustration), and âaudiophileâ snobbery.
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Beats are equivalent to the stereotype of Apple, overpriced and marketed up the a-hole. The difference being that there is a use-case for Apple products over the competition, Beats doesnât really have an advantage beyond name recognition.
Itâs just a product of consumerism, people claim a level of participation in brands they like and sometimes that translates to animosity for things that are âstepping on its toesâ. Sometimes itâs justified, but usually itâs exaggerated.
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If you want boosted and unrefined bass check out something like the x2hr
SO exactly what it is? Unless youâre a member of their cult, or specifically need their software.
Specifically needing their software (or more accurately software thatâs only available on MacOS like Logic Pro or Final Cut), especially if youâre a business the outlay isnât really that important compared to uptime, training and accessibility.
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By the way, Beats is owned by Apple now⌠so youâre 100% right 
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The problem with Beats is the marketing. Apple is known of quality products and excellent software. Beats makes Headphones with lower quality audio. The material is shoddy and cheap. This does not match the rest of their products. Beats are built a lot like kid products. They feel like kids toys and not the more expensive feel and performance the rest of Apple products have. They should have bought a better manufacturer.
That being said they just announced THEIR OWN over the ear headphones. I take this means it wasnât designed by those that are involved in beats and probably wonât carry the Beats name, Smart move by Apple but we will see.
To be fair, Apple acquired Beats for Jimmy Iovineâs connections in the music business, not for their mediocre headphones.
When you are an uninitiated, sure.
When you look at the PCB layout (45V backlight running next to 0.8V data to CPU without GND trace between them, missing current monitoring, etc.)
There is 0 excuse for the cost-cutting measures Apples has in >$1000 devices.
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I mean when you design your product to fail and then also design the entire system to prevent and discourage self repair thatâs kinda dumb. Apple kinda runs on âit broke? Just buy a new one, it will cost the same to fix it.â Of course this is stupid and not the true, but it works
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and all the horrors with their butterfly switches and them refusing to stop using them even though they are notorious for breaking. even at the surface user experience side they cant get right. software isnt too bad even a 3 year old can figure out an iphone and thats props to their design team but fuck if you want to do anything beyond that
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