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Even if L50 has max output power of 3.5W @ 32 ohms? Or I shouldnā€™t take measurements into consideration or more precisely how much should I take measurements into consideration? And Sabaj D5 has 1.9W @ 32ohms balanced.

Since I also have a pair of monitors, no passthrough kind of kills it for me.

I havenā€™t found any dacs with AKM or CSS chips at that 250ish range. Most of them are ESS I think or Iā€™ve missed them.

I would probably like to stay on SS for now. Iā€™m looking into the rabbit hole, but havenā€™t stepped into it yet.

yes, yes they are lol. My go to for quite some time for casual and competitive all aroundā€¦ granted not as specifically designated for my competitive useā€¦ still very very good and I love the sound on these. I eventually traded up to the Aeon 2

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The MT-602 headphone jack doesnā€™t seem to mute the pre-outs, so using them with always-on powered monitors would add a small extra dash of frustration. I use it with a power amp that I only power on when in use which is not concurrent to headphone use.

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I stand corrected. Modius has AKM chips, but it has a wait time of 6-8 weeks.

What about something like E50 or Soncoz LA-QXD1/Gustard H16 combo?

Lots of questions in there. Output power is often measured somewhere in the midrange, which are usually some of the easiest to drive frequencies. 3.5W or 1.9W at 1KHz doesnā€™t mean youā€™ll get that much at 30 Hz.

The ā€œhow much should I trust measurements?ā€ question is much bigger. In general they are a loose guide. The more coarse the measurement (like condensing output power into a single number), the more care needs to be taken in interpreting them.

Both dacs I mentioned have variable output level and can be used as a preamp. You could split the output of the dac and control monitor volume that way.

Okay, I think I get your point now. Iā€™m interested what do you think about the H16 tho, would it be a good fit?

Yeah, but that way I canā€™t mute the speakers without switching them off. Which is kind of tedious imo, tho I have a inline volume controller, which is single ended. But still I kind of want to go balanced.

Then why not simply use one those little bear XLR switch boxes and call it a day :smiley:

[XLR switch box](Nobsound 3-IN-1-OUT XLR Audio Switch ; Balanced Audio Converter ; 3-Way Stereo Passive Audio Selector Switcher (MC103 Pro 3-IN) https://smile.amazon.de/dp/B07R41LNKG/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_9457J0QCSQR4MR73P9DM)

Correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but then it would be single ended to balanced without the benefit of balanced.

If your coming from an e50 youā€™ll only need an trs to XLR cable to make it work or did I miss some info when I read the questions before?

I think Iā€™m having trouble with figuring out how the little bear fits in.

So you can mute your speakers without powering them off ?

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That would work indeed if Iā€™m going balanced and the amp doesnā€™t mute pre-outs if HPs are plugged in.

Hello,
The Soncoz doesnā€™t look bad from a technical point of view.
However, it is an Ess chip.

According to the data, the Gustard only goes up to 64 ohm, so I donā€™t think it is designed for the Aeon, or for driving low-ohm headphones.
There is this.

The Topping E50 looks the worst in my opinion.
I donā€™t think I would take that one.
Iā€™d rather go for the E30.

The Ify Signature could be a good choice maybe.
Topping still has a Dac that is equipped with two Css.
However, it will be over budget.
Mon I think left the Allo Revolution with the Lake People G103S thoroughly positive.
Somewhere he posted something where other combinations were also quite good.

Otherwise, Jds Labs has the O2 Dac on offer, which is also good, but technically no longer new.
The Grace Design used to be very popular at Drop, but unfortunately it is not available.

Actually thereā€™s also SMSL M300 MKII and it has a AKM chip.

What about as a all-in-one Singxer SDA 2? Itā€™s pretty much over budget, but I could probably fit it in.

Hello,
Yes, the Singxer Sda 2C hehe I have it myself and it is still in use.
You wonā€™t go wrong with it and it is also future-proof and definitely has no problems with the Aeon R/T.
Even the Lcd 2C is fantastic.
Well tuned, balanced sound, itā€™s a good Aio for the money.
I think itā€™s one of the best devices in its class.

I think that this is the one Iā€™m going with, but I can only find a SDA 2A in EU right now, what is the difference with the C version?

The C version has a galvanic isolation at the USB port.
That is all.
Look here

Or here
https://www.berlin-hifi.de/ONLINESHOP/Digitalgeraete/D-A-Wandler/Singxer-SDA-2C::5552.html

An alternative would be Shenzenaudio, but customs clearance will take place when it arrives in the country.

Is there any benefit to USB over SPDIF? BTW its out of stock on Magna HiFi.

Yes something, makes sense if the Pc makes problems then it has been implemented quite well for that.
Iā€™ll put it this way, youā€™ll have peace of mind in any case.
But if you ever want to connect to the Singxer Su 2 via I2S, it is then superfluous.
The Su 2 will take care of that.
I2S is a different type of connection that transforms, calculates, clocks etc. the signal differentlyā€¦
But it is not a must.
I think you are well equipped with the C version, you donā€™t need an Ify defender or the like.

I think my question was not well formulated. What I meant was, should I get the C version and specifically use USB or instead Iā€™m okay with getting the A version and using optical?