We always ignore the Focal listen. its closed back and selling for 200$ any good?
I think the focal listen is good, but it is more on ear than over ear, and the headband has had some build issues.
Sound demos are rather useless imo, will not really give you any good indication of what something will sound like.
The fostex are pretty great but the main downside for you would most likely be the pretty small soundstage, otherwise they are very nice
The sundara is pretty awesome, not harsh and extend well, more midrange, and a solid bass performer with the new revision
I can’t help think that if I’d run into a HP like the Sundara, with the build quality of the DT177X I would have stopped buying more headphones right then and there because they would have been good at just about everything. Oooh the money I would have saved.
Would the Sundara be OK in an office open space or I would likely be the jukebox of the room?
Hmmm most likely no then lol. You would want to stick to closed
The Focal Listen Pro is actually pretty good for a neutral studio closed back. Great isolation, good neutral sound, great for studio. It is solid, but certainly not impressive or outstanding like others, just solid for the price.
I owned the Sundara and the right gimbal cracked. I never replaced them as I was out of warranty and I bought the LCD-2C. But the Sundara sounded pretty good. The Hifiman headphones I liked almost the best (the old HE-500 with Alpha Pads was my favorite). I like Ananda also, but they are overpriced imo.
With the new stealth revision, I think I’m going to buy them again as everything I had minor issues with were fixed (bass roll off, treble can get hot on certain songs).
I bought the sundara, its was one of my earlier headphones too, and it didnt stop me from buying audiophile stuff lol
Because it was pretty crappy build and had issues. My headphone is still a fantasy, the build of a DT 177X and the sound quality of the new silent rev. Sundara.
I’ve recently picked up the T60rp and they’re pretty great. Their low-end is mightily impressive, though they tend to overbear the mids a bit. Out of their box I find their treble to be a bit too harsh, so I pad swapped over to the ZMF oval Cowhides and that fixed that issue entirely.
My honest suggestion for you would be to snag some MMX300, even if you’re in no need of a mic on your headphones. The MMX300 have noticeably better detail all around. They don’t quite have the same boom in the bass, but otherwise are a more balanced headphone than the t60s while still maintaining a v-shaped profile.
The mmx300 is actually somewhat similar to the 770 32 ohm with a bit more refined signature from my experience
The t60rp is pretty nice
I’m very curious about the t60rp. especially since you can get them modded by mod house. how would you say they compare to other headphones in teh 300$ range?
Not that I’m a huge fan of this term by any means, but I kind of skipped the “mid-fi” portion of this hobby. The T60 are really my first pair in this price range so I don’t have a ton to compare them to that have a similar signature. I’ve got someone in my office that have the MMX300 that I’ve done some A/B testing with. I will say this though, I believe the T60 are the best of the “T50 mods”. I listen to a ton of different music and I will say that the t60 aren’t the best for some genres, but if you listen to music that pander to its strengths there are times when these cans are quite magical. I guess to answer your question on the $300 price point, I would suggest trying to snag a used set of 177x Go. Firstly, because they are easier to power. I didn’t really start falling in love with my t60 until I started pushing them with my smsl sp200
Yeah the biggest con for me for both T60 and Argon mod is that they are hard to drive.
I think that a lot of people tend to exaggerate how hard it is to drive the T50RP/T60RP/Argons. I’m able to comfortably drive them off of my JDS Labs El Amp.
Do they benefit from more power? Absolutely they do. But they aren’t impossible to drive like some make them out to be.
So it is MMX300 vs DT177xGo. I believe I am going to swing to the MMX300. That “gaming” tag though puts me off, even if I honestly could use the mic with my Axon 7 or at work.
Edit: on drop for the EU I cannot get the the 177X. Only the Fostex TR X00 of the ones I am evaluating.
MMX300 uses a similar driver found in the 770, 880, 990, etc. The 177X is going to have better sound quality overall.
The plot thickens. I cannot find them though. I would have to pay customs and shipment if I order them from Drop. I don’t think they are sold outside.
Edit: and also the TR X00 are out of stock.
Have you considered the standard 1770? i’m not sure which country you currently reside in but prices for the 1770 is like $399. That’s $19 more than the 177X unless you wanted to purchase the 177X for its portability at 32 ohms