šŸ”· FiiO BTR5

Maybe I’m just picky on dacs… but… I actually prefer the implementation on the dragonfly cobalt over the fiio. The fiio sounds a little dry but holy moly is it just clean and accurate. I find the dragonfly cobalt (same DAC) to be a tiny bit more musical and enjoyable… but bluetooth + mic…

I got mine here

shipped from china took about 1 and a half weeks

the price has been pretty variable i guess because it’s high demand now, but when I bought it back in jan it was on sale for 120

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the final question i’d have is will the BTR5 sound better than my LGV35’s built in quad DAC

It’s good enough you can live with getting a new phone and not miss the headphone jack. You will still miss the FM radio if you used that.

Zeos’s amazon review says it powers t60rps. But I mean. It’s so tiny. I don’t expect desktop DAC performance from it either. Just… loudness.

It probably was just the mastering. A/B testing lossless VS MQA with the exact same master… good luck. Also, MQA is lossy.

Louder actually often means not as good. Louder can often mean that the song has been compressed more and as a result there is a loss in dynamic range and detail, and therefore sounds louder. I won’t get into the whole loudness war thing, but for example, a lossy mp3 file will usually sound louder because it is compressed and they cut out a lot of details, whereas a FLAC file will sound not as loud because the details are not lost, and the dynamic range is preserved.
If you must use compressed and lossy format, I would recommend using AAC file format over mp3.

i dunno how to test that

plus its the option to use for streaming since i cant use qobuz (lack of student discount) so being able to use that to get 96K sound would be useful since i dont download music

Also they’re available on eBay too.

Honestly if you are going with streaming Spotify premium really isn’t that bad.
Amazon Music HD is also good.

but lossy… and i dont wanna use amazon music HD

i just want spotify HIFI to come out already because i like spotify but i want audiophile big peen points

Spotify premium really isn’t a huge difference compared to lossless. Besides you yourself said you couldn’t hear the difference. If you can’t hear the difference does it really matter that much? I honestly prefer downloading music via cheap CDs myself to get lossless recordings.

If you can’t hear the difference, you pay more for nothing. Spend more on stuff that will make your mp3s (or 320kbps streaming) sound better instead.

but my pee pee points… i like feeling like i got to get the best when it comes to stuff like lossless and finally be able to hear the sound one day… pllus i like the idea of trying premium level streaming

how do you even do that… i mean any dac can do 320 streaming well because it should be incredibly easy and i dunno how i can improve on that sound when i already have good headphones and the difference between lossy and lossless is apparently big

When I got my HD58Xs I didn’t even knew my mp3s could sound like that. The greatest difference you’ll hear will obviously be going from headphone to headphone. That’s like 90% of the difference. Personally, I’m damn sure listening to mp3s, with open-back headphones (smooth, airy), versus closed-back planars (planar bass, naturalness, detail), versus balanced armature IEMs (in-your-face everything), versus dynamic drivers (smooth, sometimes ā€œmuddyā€ bass), makes more of a difference than listening to ā€œthe mp3 versus the CDā€ā€¦ unless you got 400$+ ā€œdetail monsterā€ headphones.

But maybe my hearing just sucks. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m still listening to mp3s, but when there’s an artist I really like, I buy CDs. That might be an inexpensive option for you. (Also… that way the artist will get more than one hundredth of a cent for the streaming of a song or something).

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tbh maybe MY hearing just sucks because besides maybe a bit of equalization i dont hear much a difference… on vinyl yeah i hear it noticable better and its so much fun but not on streaming and digital files

that COULD possibly be a DAC bottleneck though

Hmm. I heard last week that vinyl has less dynamic range than CDs. Which could mean, the sound is more ā€œcompressedā€. Not like mp3 compression. CDs got 96dB dynamic range, and for vinyl, it’s lower. Something like 80. It’s the maximum range between the most subtle sounds and the loudest sounds. This means you can hear the little details more easily.

well i know that

but i dont really think a lot about dynamic range compression… its more stuff like missing tones and details… since when its too quiet it would just be not noticed to me because i am not putting my music on super loud (20 on my laptop and like 70% on youtube)

Still going to say I like the way my music sounds on this dac even with bluetooth. In extreme testing, yes this can be used on a motorcycle in a pinch.

I’m seriously considering buying a second one since the one device gets used so much I want to charge one and use one at the same time. USB C means I can FINALLY USE A SINGLE CABLE on the road.

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Yeah bluetooth isn’t a bad word anymore especially with LDAC heh.

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