šŸ”· FiiO BTR5

Maybe Iā€™m just picky on dacsā€¦ butā€¦ I actually prefer the implementation on the dragonfly cobalt over the fiio. The fiio sounds a little dry but holy moly is it just clean and accurate. I find the dragonfly cobalt (same DAC) to be a tiny bit more musical and enjoyableā€¦ but bluetooth + micā€¦

I got mine here

shipped from china took about 1 and a half weeks

the price has been pretty variable i guess because itā€™s high demand now, but when I bought it back in jan it was on sale for 120

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the final question iā€™d have is will the BTR5 sound better than my LGV35ā€™s built in quad DAC

Itā€™s good enough you can live with getting a new phone and not miss the headphone jack. You will still miss the FM radio if you used that.

Zeosā€™s amazon review says it powers t60rps. But I mean. Itā€™s so tiny. I donā€™t expect desktop DAC performance from it either. Justā€¦ loudness.

It probably was just the mastering. A/B testing lossless VS MQA with the exact same masterā€¦ good luck. Also, MQA is lossy.

Louder actually often means not as good. Louder can often mean that the song has been compressed more and as a result there is a loss in dynamic range and detail, and therefore sounds louder. I wonā€™t get into the whole loudness war thing, but for example, a lossy mp3 file will usually sound louder because it is compressed and they cut out a lot of details, whereas a FLAC file will sound not as loud because the details are not lost, and the dynamic range is preserved.
If you must use compressed and lossy format, I would recommend using AAC file format over mp3.

i dunno how to test that

plus its the option to use for streaming since i cant use qobuz (lack of student discount) so being able to use that to get 96K sound would be useful since i dont download music

Also theyā€™re available on eBay too.

Honestly if you are going with streaming Spotify premium really isnā€™t that bad.
Amazon Music HD is also good.

but lossyā€¦ and i dont wanna use amazon music HD

i just want spotify HIFI to come out already because i like spotify but i want audiophile big peen points

Spotify premium really isnā€™t a huge difference compared to lossless. Besides you yourself said you couldnā€™t hear the difference. If you canā€™t hear the difference does it really matter that much? I honestly prefer downloading music via cheap CDs myself to get lossless recordings.

If you canā€™t hear the difference, you pay more for nothing. Spend more on stuff that will make your mp3s (or 320kbps streaming) sound better instead.

but my pee pee pointsā€¦ i like feeling like i got to get the best when it comes to stuff like lossless and finally be able to hear the sound one dayā€¦ pllus i like the idea of trying premium level streaming

how do you even do thatā€¦ i mean any dac can do 320 streaming well because it should be incredibly easy and i dunno how i can improve on that sound when i already have good headphones and the difference between lossy and lossless is apparently big

When I got my HD58Xs I didnā€™t even knew my mp3s could sound like that. The greatest difference youā€™ll hear will obviously be going from headphone to headphone. Thatā€™s like 90% of the difference. Personally, Iā€™m damn sure listening to mp3s, with open-back headphones (smooth, airy), versus closed-back planars (planar bass, naturalness, detail), versus balanced armature IEMs (in-your-face everything), versus dynamic drivers (smooth, sometimes ā€œmuddyā€ bass), makes more of a difference than listening to ā€œthe mp3 versus the CDā€ā€¦ unless you got 400$+ ā€œdetail monsterā€ headphones.

But maybe my hearing just sucks. :stuck_out_tongue:

Iā€™m still listening to mp3s, but when thereā€™s an artist I really like, I buy CDs. That might be an inexpensive option for you. (Alsoā€¦ that way the artist will get more than one hundredth of a cent for the streaming of a song or something).

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tbh maybe MY hearing just sucks because besides maybe a bit of equalization i dont hear much a differenceā€¦ on vinyl yeah i hear it noticable better and its so much fun but not on streaming and digital files

that COULD possibly be a DAC bottleneck though

Hmm. I heard last week that vinyl has less dynamic range than CDs. Which could mean, the sound is more ā€œcompressedā€. Not like mp3 compression. CDs got 96dB dynamic range, and for vinyl, itā€™s lower. Something like 80. Itā€™s the maximum range between the most subtle sounds and the loudest sounds. This means you can hear the little details more easily.

well i know that

but i dont really think a lot about dynamic range compressionā€¦ its more stuff like missing tones and detailsā€¦ since when its too quiet it would just be not noticed to me because i am not putting my music on super loud (20 on my laptop and like 70% on youtube)

Still going to say I like the way my music sounds on this dac even with bluetooth. In extreme testing, yes this can be used on a motorcycle in a pinch.

Iā€™m seriously considering buying a second one since the one device gets used so much I want to charge one and use one at the same time. USB C means I can FINALLY USE A SINGLE CABLE on the road.

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Yeah bluetooth isnā€™t a bad word anymore especially with LDAC heh.

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