Final Audio E series

So we have…

Out of curiosity I went for the E4000 they should be here Thursday :smiley:

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You did what I wanted to do, haha thanks for that.

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thanks for the graphs

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And our DMS’s review of the e2000 and 3000…

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Arrived a day earlier than expected :smiley:

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Looking forward to your impressions

Gonna listen to them over the weekend…but the biggest first impression is the sound stage, man for such a small set it’s pretty amazing…Yosi’s spaces has a lot of errr space and imagining is good too :+1:

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Interesting, and those are closed back too aren’t they?

I noticed a similar thing with the e3000. Very good spatial recreation for an in ear

Yes indeed they are which I guess is even more surprising but then again i’ve never heard an open iem lol :man_shrugging: but that’s what hit me first along with gosh these are so so light, easy to fit with a good seal to boot…but the missus did say she could hear what I was listening to though.

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Awesome, may need to give those a try next

A/ B’ing between the Reecho Spring 1 and the 4000’s (similar price points) with Yosi’s Timbers…the 4000’s produces a noticeably wider sound stage L to R (neither are good forward or back) imaging seems a tad tighter on the springs so maybe a trade off? but I do like both :smiley:

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Final is great. The E3000 is really solid. The E5000 is my favorite pair of IEMs. However, they are difficult to power and the fit is tough sometimes. I had custom molds fitted and they ruined the sound. I don’t recommend doing that.

From what I understand the even series (2000 & 4000) is dark and the even series (3000 and 5000) is warm.

The D8000 Pro is great too. I see big things from them going forward.

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I won’t say the 4000 was dark, it delivers what I’d call an arena/speaker type sound like if you’re at a gig ten seats back where as the Spring 1’s gives you a more studio like sound. The 4000 bass rolls deeper and has a slower decay where as the Springs don’t go as deep but it’s faster with a quicker decay both sound good…Mids go to the Springs the guitar on Joe Walsh’s Life’s been good to me is spot on but mid vocals are a tad forward, where as the 4000 mids take a step back, they’re there but not so in your face, kinda more relaxed I guess you’d call it…with highs on Kate Bushes Sensual World track the spring has more detail, probably due to a more elevated treble response? this isn’t a problem for me but some people may find it a bit too much? (EQ if you wish) The 4000 has a calmer and smoother treble, maybe at the expense of detail? but would suit people offended by a somewhat forward treble.
Sorry I can’t compare with any of the other Final series but I like 4000’s they’re going nowhere lol :smiley:

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Call me a heretic, but my E3000 sound pretty damn close to my DT770’s. Now I am not saying they sound exactly like them, but switching from one to the other gives me a similar sound signature.

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heretic!! lol kidding… I can sort see what you mean… imo the 3000 has a very slight v shape where the 770 has a much more aggressive v shape… so maybe that’s the similarity youre hearing

that said I think the 3000 has much smoother more musical (and less elevated) highs and the 770 has much greater sub bass performance

similar but also different I suppose… the e2000 has a more aggressive v shape than the 3000 so if youre chasing the 770 sound imo the 2000 would be closer

Is it sacrilege to rec Spiral Dot tips over Final’s on a Final product?..Don’t get me wrong, Final tips rock and one of my go to’s, but the Spirals work better for me on the 4000’s…they open up the mids/upper mids a tad leaving things less cluttered, especially giving female vocals more space and detail…Bass is still solid and the treble doesn’t seem to be elevated…well worth a tip juggle if you have Spirals imho :+1:

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They are still 1a and the final tips are 1b :wink:

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I’ll have to give them a try. I’ve been using spinfits on my e3000s.

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Not too sure about 3000’s v’s 4000’s mate, but the spins and final tips have circa the same sound “sig” all be it with a different texture and feel imho… but it can also depend on what spin tip length you use…I mostly use the Spin CP145.

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Yeah that’s what I’ve heard as well, I’m using the cp100.