Guys what is a good amp dac pairing with the clear MG?
So far I have read:
- Bf2+jot2
- Bf2+RNHP
I am running mine with the Bf2+RNHP. I have 5h with them so far.
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Opinions seem to vary based on what you want from the music. There are indeed several of us that like them with both the ones you mentioned. But if you want the DAC and amp to get out of the way and not color the sound, @Resolution loves the D90SE+A90 pairing. He also has another amp he enjoys them with that Iām too lazy to scroll back up to find, lol. But they should also scale similarly to the OG Clears with higher end gear, so checking out the OG Clear thread might be worth your while.
Continuing though, a Soekris 2451+Violectric V281 might be good? But I could also see that pushing it a bit too warm for some people. Now if you want to stay with the Bf2, a Burson Soloist 3XP might me a good choice. Or even a Conductor+Soloist stack might work. But Iām not sure if anyone here has tried that? But again, back to the Bf2, a while back M0N pointed these out to me:
Of course, this is all dependent on what your budget is. Beyond that, Iām pretty much at a loss for advise to give, lol.
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There was also a recommendation of Little Labs Monotor + BF2 for the Clear MG as well.
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For anyone wondering about my DACs & ampsā¦
Here are some photos of my personal DAC amp setups I have experience with in combination of the OG FOCAL Clear & FOCAL Clear MG. I no longer own the OG Clear and only have the Clear MG Pro on hand currently.
(My Darkvoice is heavily MODDED)
Hope these are helpful to anyone trying to recall any amps or dacs I might have been referencing in my discussions. 
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Nice set up! Do you mind me asking what tubes you use with your DV?
Selling My Focal Clear MG pro!
Review by GoldenSound
Not sure I agree with what he says about their timbre, and I canāt hear above 16.5-17kHz, so I canāt comment on them being fatiguing to people who can. Thoughts?
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I think he did a great job. I think heās my new favorite reviewer.
Heās being very critical as he should be.
I canāt hear over 16K so I can not comment on his comments of the treble above 18K, but I believe him. Iāve enjoyed most of his reviews, and heās very well educated in everything he discusses and uses music to describe his feelings/opinions.
As for the timbre, heās right. Timbre has always been the weakest point and my biggest gripe with all the FOCALS Iāve owned. I personally feel the Clear MG has much better timbre than FOCALās other headphones.
Heās a GREAT reviewer. I canāt for him to review more products.
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Golden does a great job. And for as much as the Mg cost I agree that he should be critical, Iām just not sure I agree with his criticisms this time.That could just be my lack of experience with other headphones though. But yeah, I love the way he does his reviews, using specific tracks to point out what heās talking about. I think heās just the right mix of objective and subjective.
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I think heās got a lot of experience. He made mention of the Susvara a few times, so heās comparing the Clear MG to the very best heās heard and trying to give the most accurate impressions within his experience. Good or bad. I respect that.
I find it very refreshing that he gets critical and 95% of everything reviewed isnāt simply āthe bestā. Itās refreshing in a sea of reviewers that are all trying to make a living reviewing products that canāt be too critical of any products because they donāt want to upset the manufacturers.
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I gotta be honest, this youtuber lost some credibility to me because he claims to hear better soundstage and separation on high end DACs. I do not agree with DACs sounding better than the audibility threshold, maybe thatās the objectivist in me.
That being said, I agree about the warm nature of the Clear MG, thatās exactly why I love it. I can only hear up to 17kHz, so I donāt hear this supposed 18 kHz resonance he was talking about. I know the Elex had a measurable resonance around 19 kHz, but the original Clear removed that. And according to measurements at SBAF, the MG does not have any resonances in this area, so Iām skeptical: https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/focal-clear-mg-measurements-analysis-review.10755/page-2
I agree. Iām also a huge fan of the additional bass/sub bass extension and better timbre vs the OG Clear and of course, the slam.
Just remember, at the end of the day, nothing else matters as long as YOU like it.
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SBAF measurements are taken with a MiniDSP Ears rig with their own compensation. Not an industry standard measurement rig.
Yeah I know, but the 18 kHz driver resonance should at least show up in some way if it was actually there. I heard weird resonances with the Elex which was at least backed up by the CSDs, but I hear nothing on the MG which is also backed up by the very clean CSDs in comparison. Anyway, I canāt hear that high so maybe itās placebo.
Okay, so I bought both the OG Clear and the Clear MG over a week ago, so letās ramble for a bit.
Honestly, I think that by far the biggest difference between them is exactly the thing that GoldenSound is referring to as a āwoolyā texture over everything (which is a reasonable description, imo). I initially wanted to call it a muddiness, which also sounds insane to me considering that these two are the most resolving headphones that I own.
The Clear MG is fuller, slightly bassier, and muddier while the OG Clear is āclear-erā (lol) and thinner. If my chain was just a smidge thin-sounding, I think Iād dislike the OG, honestly (which explains why everyone pairs the OG with the Bifrost). Also, I should mention Iāve spent like 90% of my listening time on the Quicksilver, which is a tube amp.
What I find especially funny about this is that while that texture on the MG definitely sounds weird to me in spots, I didnāt always find it disagreeable. For example, I listened to the first few tracks of Jai Wolfās āThe Cure for Lonelinessā and I preferred the separation of the sound on the OG while listening to āLose My Mind,ā but while listening to āStill Sleeping,ā I preferred how the MG made it sound more full and cohesive. And itās not like these are two different genres of music, theyāre literally two songs on the same album.
Some other notes: Iām 32 years old and I canāt hear 17Khz. It would be a stretch to claim I can even hear 16.5KHz. So I definitely canāt hear the 18KHz treble issue on the MG. Before COVID, I used to attend weekly swing dances with live music, so yeah, several years of loud music events on a regular basis probably hasnāt helped my hearing.
As for timbre, I donāt think the difference in timbre between the OG and the MG is particularly significant. They do have different timbre, but like, my daily driver is an Eikon, which has much better timbre than both imo. So itās kinda like, if you care about timbre a lot, you probably donāt want either Clear, but I personally donāt find the timbre of either one of them offensive, so if itās not that important to you, I think youāll be fine.
Anyway, the real reason I bought the Clears in the first place is because I had recently bought a new DAC. My most resolving headphone was my Eikon and I wanted something a little more detailed to really let me hear the improvements in my chain. From that perspective, I donāt think I wouldāve been dissatisfied with either of the Clears (though interestingly, the jump from my previous DAC to my new DAC was a bigger jump than from the Eikon to the Clear).
Crinacleās review of the Clear MG mentioned some weirdness with the pads, so probably at some point, Iāll try putting the OG Clearās pads on the MG and vice-versa and see how that goes (yay for the Pro skus including extra pads).
So now that Iāve upgraded my DAC and bought a Clear, I think Iām in the mood for my next headphone to be something kinda fun and stupid like a Gjallarhorn or something. I dunno, weāll see how things go after my walletās recovered.
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Listening to more tracks on the MG today, I realized just how amazing they are especially for hot/bright recordings. Since they push the sound more in front of you, it adds some space and the vocals are not fatiguing at all, the opposite in fact. You can really tell how well something was mastered because of this, as the details are presented in front of you with great imaging and layering. You can tell if the engineer purposely wanted a certain instrument to pop out, and itās easy with the MGs to notice, not so much with other headphones. Even with brighter headphones I have like the Hifiman HE-500 and Sennheiser HD600, you canāt dig deep into the recording like you can with the Clear MGs. You would think itās the opposite given how warm the Clear MG is, but somehow thereās so much more detail than those other headphones. Thereās also a unique midrange presence that is hard to describe with the Clear MG unless youāve heard it. Only thing I hate about the Clear MG is itās ruined my other headphones for meā¦ darn it.
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Quick update: The Clear MG pads visually look quite similar to the OG Clear pads, but to the touch, they have more resistance when you press into them, and they take longer to return to their original shape, kinda like a memory-foam-ish material. The OG Clear pads donāt offer much resistance and just immediately spring back when you press into them, so the two models definitely seem to use different pad material.
I happened to have some pretty well-worn OG Clear pads, so I tried putting them on my MG and I /think/ I prefer the MG with the OG pads over the stock pads, but I would need to give it more time. It does seem to clear up a lot of the muddiness I talked about in my earlier post, but it doesnāt seem quite as clean as an actual OG on first listen. If anyone else has both models, I would love to hear anyone elseās thoughts just to double-check that Iām not crazy! lol
Your comparison to the Eikon is really interesting as they too are my daily drive. I got a chance to try the Clear MG yesterday and I thought they were actually somewhat similar sounding.
However, the MGs were a clear and huge step up in technicalities, separation was flawless to my ears and the imaging was spectacular - and I mean spectacular. The dynamics, speed, punch - particularly how things like the rumble of thunder were depicted - all really top notch.
The timbre of Eikons, their physicality, all great things ofc. But Iām strongly considering getting those Clearsā¦
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Yay, weāre Eikon friends! 
So first off, I definitely agree that the Clears have awesome dynamics and imaging. And yeah, the whole reason I bought them in the first place was for that step up in technical performance.
I guess I can understand the Clears and the Eikon sounding similar-ish, but now that I own them both, I do think of them as somewhat complimentary. I still prefer the Eikon for listening to stuff like swing jazz, soul music, and indie rock, which is a decent chunk of what I like to listen to. But for anything pop, electronic, rap, etc, I definitely prefer the Clears.
So yeah, if you get the Clears, make sure to keep the Eikon around for a little while and see how you feel between the two!
A couple of notes: I mostly listen to the Eikon with the Auteur lambskin pads, and as I wrote above, Iām pretty sure I prefer the Clear MG with the OG pads, both of which make their respective headphones less warm than the stock pads (and maybe makes them sound more different from each other to me?).
Iām lucky enough to be in a position where Iād be able to have both and be complimentary. I think thatās a very good way to have them as the Aryas I had before were really like chalk and cheese compared to the Eikons. Whereas the Clears offer something more refined and elegant compared to the Eikon (substantially more so) but not at the expense of feeling like it pulls the music apart or so. And timbre I genuinely didnāt find to be so much worse on the Clears that it was a big loss compared to the Eikons, whereas the Aryas had very planar timbre and far too much sibilance.
Iāve not tried the auteur lambskin pads, I tend to only use my Eikon lambskins although I bought a pair of Suedes a couple of years ago, not a big fan of those for how they soften the sound. Iād be interested to try some auteur pads at some point or some others, I know perforated pads are a big no no on the Eikons though.
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