šŸ”¶ Focal Clear

Went at my Clear cable with a suture cutter, gets rid of lots of the shape memory and turns it into something that behaves like an HD650 cable:

Oh, and Zach doesnā€™t like me having money: -edit: picked these up, and seems like theyā€™re mainly tuned for the Elex rather than the Clear.

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Lol the cable legit looks better. Maybe Iā€™ll do the same

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I had been regretting selling my Clear Mg for a while now, so I took the opportunity to buy these off Headphones dot com with the sale. Theyā€™re just a little too bright for me so I got a pair of Dekoni sheepskin pads to quell the treble a little but also elevate the bass slightly and oh yeah, weā€™re in business.

Iā€™m a huge Focal fan and I think they do dynamics better than anyone in the business.

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Has anyone tried out the ZMF pads on the clear og?

Yea I have them on my Clear MG. They are a bit thicker and therefore you get more width to the soundstage. Also they do increase the clamp pressure due this result and I notice more of a hotspot on top now. But this might mean the pads need a bit of break-in time. I purchased the lambskin perf.

Threw them on the MiniDSP Ears, here is kinda quick take in terms of frequency differences between the two:

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Would it be a waste of money to buy a set of Clear only to run them off an Asgard 3?

clears arenā€™t super source dependent, I only noticed a very small improvement between my more budget setup and higher end setup

I would somewhat disagree there, depends on what your budget and your higher end setup is imo. I would say it is somewhat of a poor value to run them only off an a3 assuming the dac is at a similar level

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What about a lake people g111 M0N ?

My dac is the chip onboard the A3.

I agree with this to a pointā€¦Will they sound good on the Asgard3 with the built in dacā€¦Yesā€¦If down the road he chooses to upgrade his amp/dac will they scale with the upgrade? Absolutelyā€¦I have the Elex, but I have listened to the og clears on my Asgard3/Modius setupā€¦It doesnā€™t sound bad at all.

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Good choice, my personal favorite around that range is the rnhp or the monotor but the g111 is also quite good. What dac are you thinking?

Gotcha. It will sound good, not like it will be a bad experience, but I still would say that value wise it isnā€™t really that strong in this case as thereā€™s a decent bit more you could be getting from that headphone/leaving on the table. But the og clear has been dropping in price so perhaps it could make more sense

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Would I be better off with the Elex? Iā€™ve read a thousand reviews and am convinced that of the two, all things being equal, Iā€™d be happier with the Clearā€¦and am afraid that if I bought an Elex Iā€™d never shake the idea that there was something betterā€¦Clear would be an end-game.

I might talk myself into buying a Modius.

Well in Europe the Lake People seems like the straight forward choice thatā€™s mainly why. Plus I like that it has the power to back up the price.

DAC wise I have no idea really where to go to without breaking the bank so I am glad that you ask this question. So what would be a sensible option to work well with a g111?

Also I am looking to acquire a motu ultralight mk5 or a motu m4 as an interface and was really wondering if it would be a bad choice to use it as my headphone DAC as well?

If I were you considering you have set you heart on the Clear I would get it and plan to upgrade my amp sometime (sooner rather then later) after that.

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I have the Elex paired with the Asgard3/Modius stackā€¦I really like itā€¦I bought my Asgard3 usedā€¦The guy I bought it from had it for a little less than three monthsā€¦It was a deal I couldnā€™t pass upā€¦It has the dac chip in itā€¦I will be honest I prefer the modius over the dac chipā€¦I have done extensive listening with the chip and the Modiusā€¦To my ears the Modius opens the sound stage up and adds a punch to the bass and cleans the low end upā€¦The dac chip also takes away from the power of the amp alsoā€¦If you read reviews you will come across thisā€¦It is trueā€¦With the Modius I usually donā€™t pass 10 oā€™clock with my Modiusā€¦When using the dac chip I have to listen around 11 oā€™clock to get the same volumeā€¦You will not be disappointed with this set upā€¦

If you want a clear, then just go for it at this point given how good of a deal they are (if theyā€™re still being sold new around 990 or something similar)

I wouldnā€™t, simply because itā€™s not going to be a big upgrade from the internal card, imo youā€™d have to move to something like a bf2 for a substantial jump imo. The modius is a better dac than the internal donā€™t get me wrong, but I think for something a lot more substantial youā€™d have to go higher

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Iā€™d say if you could swing something like a bf2 or ares ii that would be pretty great, another awesome option is a soekris 2541 as well for something higher tier and also more neutral than the aforementioned. But if you didnā€™t want to jump as high as those (although I do think itā€™s worth it with a clear), an allo revolution dac + nirvana smps works quite well as a pairing imo (and also should be attainable in the eu)

Not personally tried the ultralite and only the m2, it likely wouldnā€™t be bad option to feed the g111, although Iā€™d put the m2 at below the aforementioned allo somewhat. But if youā€™re going to get one for other reasons you might as well use it as the dac for the time being, itā€™s going to be just fine, then you can upgrade later on for a nice performance boost

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I agree with mon about the BF2 or the aresā€¦They are both solid dacsā€¦Part of me wishes I would of just got the BF2 in the beginningā€¦

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Thanks M0N for the great recs, your opinion is highly valued :slightly_smiling_face:

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Itā€™s sick that Iā€™m even considering spending $$ on audio gear. Honestly, my A3/HD660S sounds fricking great. And sometimes I swap out the Senns for my Andro 2020s. Iā€™ve just got that itch. Iā€™m sure you all know what Iā€™m talking about.

The Andros, I must remind myself, were a good lesson re: diminishing returns. They are great but not multiple times better than the cheaper sets of IEMs I own, despite being multiple times the price. I strongly suspect thatā€™s how Iā€™ll feel about the Clearsā€¦better than the 660S but not even remotely proportionately better compared to the price difference.