šŸ”· Focal Elegia

@M0N made me do it! Iā€™m innocent!

:rofl:

I have yet to hear a better all-around headphone amp for the price of the MLP, thoughā€¦

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I donā€™t know about made lol

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Oh, so Iā€™ve just been shooting the messenger??? my badā€¦ :rofl:

All rounder for balanced for sure, for me so far, but my Asgard 3 is not leaving my desk anytime soon!

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+1 on that. I have yet to hear a $200 amp that dethrones A3 as the $200 benchmark.

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Guys, some sad and strange news. Yesterday, I tried sodering some cables for my Elegia, since the ones I ordered were 2.5mm, and using it with adapters were a pain. A friend at work helped me and the work came out pretty clean, resistance measured were between 2-3ohms for both sides, in a 1.8m cable (a little less if you take of what we cut down). Got home, tested and the left side doesnā€™t work. Schiit, something got bad in the solder work. Tested the stock cables, everything seems fine.

Today I take the cans off for some music during home-office and bam, no sound on the left side. Measuring the cable with my multimeter, resistance is 7 to 9 ohms on the left side. Now, if I plug the right cable on the left side, it seems to play just fine. So the driver in itself isnā€™t dead, but I still find it strange the same side doesnā€™t work in two cables, and the resistance changed after testing them. I already contacted Adorama but Iā€™m not hopeful, especially since Iā€™m outside the US. Tomorrow I may try them with another friend who has a dual 3.5mm cable.

Has anyone ever encountered issues like that? Anyone with a suggestion, other than ā€œbuy another cableā€?

Edit: sorry for the bad English, I think everything is right now.

Check if you have continuity (short circuit) between the two conductors on the side of the cable that doesnā€™t work. Also your resistances are crazy high. Iā€™ve never made a cable with more than a few milliohms of resistance.

Continuity is fine, which is the weirdest part. I was actually doing along the resistance measurement during the connector soldering. And yeah, the values seems high but thatā€™s why I was comparing with the stock cable. Maybe I just screwed up the measurements.

Can you post pics of the wires soldered at the connectors (all three connectors)?

All three no, as we only messed with the two headphone side (dual 2.5mm > dual 3.5mm). My camera is really bad for this kind of stuff, look if it seems alright. This is the connector thatā€™s not working (left side).


The connector is TRS, the Tip and ring are to the signal, sleeve to the ground.

What do you mean ā€œsleeve to groundā€? You should only have two electrical connections - the plus and the minus.


TRS: tip, ring, sleeve. On a SE signal, you usually have Left, Right, and Ground. On the cables I have is Tip -> Left; Ring -> Right; Sleeve-> Ground (shared by both sides). Thatā€™s what I followed.

Ah ok, I thought you meant on the headphone end. Can you take a better focused image of the connector solder details?

Another thing you can do btw is plug in the ā€œbadā€ connector into the headphone and check continuity between + and gnd at the 1/4" jack. You may have a connection that is inconsistent and with slight pressure from the plug it loses continuity.

One more thing. Just re-read your original post. If the resistance changed between measurements, you def have some solder/connection problem. It may just be easier to re-solder all connections than trying to hunt it down.

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Yeah, definitively going to try that, but I have to wait next week so I can do it at my work.

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Hey, guys, I pulled the trigger and got an ā€œas newā€ pair off ebay for 500 euros (usually around 900 new in Europe). I was a bit anxious if the price justifies the increase in quality from my Senn 569ā€¦ and boy was I relieved. My primary source is Tidal on my phone combined with iBasso DC03 and the difference the Elegia brings to the table is mesmerizing. Left and right channel merged into a seamless harmony on a much wider stage with great detail and clarity. The only thing I was missing was a bit more bass, ideally something like the soft bass I love coming off my Focal car subwoofer :smiley:

On my PC, a simple EQ app solved this issue, but getting around Tidalā€™s eq restrictions on my phone (Android) was a bitch, but a couple of hours later and a rooted device running viper4android fx equalizer, the result is perfect. I am never taking these off :smiley:

PS: my anxiety regarding comfort was also unsubstantiated as the pads dont touch my ears, similar to the Sennheisersā€¦ yay!

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Glad you like them! Welcome to the Elegion! Also, good to know about the mobile solution, Iā€™ve been looking in an EQ for my phone but had no success. Didnā€™t tried rooting it though, it seems the way to go.

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Thank you!

I had my old phone lying around so I turned it into a Tidal only player :grin:
Regular equalizers dont work cause Tidal wont allow any app to mess with the tracks (DRM or fear of having them ripped/saved off app). Only solution is to root the deviceā€¦


Finally got my cables for the Elegia finished. I think there is still a very small imbalance in the cable resistance (like 0.3 or 0.4 Ohms), but at this point, I donā€™t have the patience for it. I will play around with them and if anything comes around I may try resoldering them.

Also, about 2 weeks and Focal have still not looked into my stuff. Last I heard they were ā€œping ponging meā€ between US and South America. Guess Iā€™m worried if I need some serious replacement but for now Iā€™m happy it was ā€œjustā€ the cable.

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Just I quick update here: after more than a month in contact with Focal warranty, Iā€™m still being tossed around e-mails and absolutely no solution was provided. Now I really dislike the cables, but still I think itā€™s acceptable that a stock cable of a $400 headphone broke in 3 months of use (worst if you consider the higher MSRP).

It really makes me thinks that if my Elegias went bust, Iā€™m dead on the water with my money. Focal Customer Service really sucks.

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