šŸ”¶ Focal Elex

Try Bladerunner 2049, main theme or mesa. Both sound good to me on my Sundaras, but I have not heard on an Elex.

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Maybe thatā€™s my problemā€¦ I am 49 years behind!

Hee hee hee! Good one! :joy:

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Is this sound similar to when dynamic headphones get too much bass and have that housing rattle? If so, that would make sense with dynamic drivers having more distortion, and the focal drivers being the size they are, with all that slam.

No thatā€™s not the case with the Elex. The driver itself actual clips and makes a clipping noise. Honestly though, you wonā€™t notice it with like 90% of music. The Elegia do not have this issue but they sound worse overall compared to the Elex.

I donā€™t think itā€™s quite the same as that. But regardless, clipping shouldnā€™t be an issue unless you boost the bass and listen to bass heavy music at highish volumes. I ran into the issue on my clear while listening to certain EDM songs with ifi bass boost on.

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@LANDWALKER000 @marcgii: Okay itā€™s the actual driver, and not to do with the housingā€¦got it. I listen to music in the upper 60ā€™s to lower 70ā€™s in dbā€™s so I ainā€™t gotta worry about a 85db clip.

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My Elex had a very noticeable channel imbalance. Iā€™m really late in replying to you, but drop will send you a replacementā€¦

Well I woke up to the sight of this video today. Channel imbalance issues galore:

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I donā€™t know that there are channel imbalances ā€˜galore.ā€™ My pair will be a year old next month and I have had no issues. I think that there will always be small percentage of any product that fails and that those who get them basically scream about it anywhere they can online and inflate the issue. I just think that Oluv got very unlucky with his pairs. I bet if we could see the failure rate of the Elex that it would be somewhere in the single digits.

Okay sure ā€œgaloreā€ was the wrong term I guess. But manufacturing can always change. Oluv (and the friend he mentioned in the video) just reported 3/3 Elexs they received had channel imbalance issues. Even if thatā€™s anecdotal, thatā€™s a noteworthy rate that Iā€™m just reporting.

Iā€™m more worth mentioning to folks like @NoName and @luige06 or whoever else had similar experiences in this thread.

For someone who canā€™t really tell the difference between headphones driven off an iphone vs off multiple different headphone amps, I donā€™t know if I would trust them to accurately identify channel imbalance lol. Anyways lol the elex does have this known issue in some batches

Well he did show a measurement graph in the video. Thatā€™s definitely an imbalance if Iā€™ve ever seen one.

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For me it was always noticable but I thought I was crazy. One day was listing to a mono track and it just became too painful so I contacted Drop and even though Iā€™d had it for a while they let me have a refund and I moved on. Thereā€™s still a part of me that wonders if the slight channel imbalance added to the experience of 3D sound I got from the Elex though.

I still havenā€™t ever finished getting all the way through EQing my pair, but I pretty much got up to 8k hertz and found that it wasnā€™t really an issue anymore once I adopted not striving for perfection on EQing it and instead just went for ā€œgood enoughā€. I also just EQed by the graph instead of purely the numbers this time. I was being way too meticulous last time and that ended up hurting me.

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Hi. How would the Elegia compare to these for someone hunting in this price range but concerned about the QC (and import costs) of the Elex?

One AV shop mentioned that Focals are the most RMAā€™d headphones for warranty service out of the ones that they sell (many of the notable brands that you typically see)ā€¦ and that they are the best-selling headphone brand there as well. Take that for what you will.

My few months old Focal Elegia is still going strongā€¦ with barely any use (thinking of selling them after the current stock is sold out).

@murphtones
For the Elegiaā€™s, I donā€™t really see as many complaints of out-of-the-box QC issues as I do with Elexā€™s, the latter of which seems to be Focalā€™s shit job of securing the voice coil next to the solder pad:

It seems that the voice coil of the Elexā€™s is not properly secured, which means any changes in tension may cause the voice coil to snap = dead driver.

Hi all. I got my Focal Elex from Drop more than a week ago. Iā€™m trying so hard to like these headphones so as to not return or exchange them. I love these headphones, the sound, detail, etc, but unfortunately thereā€™s a treble peak somewhere, and for the past few days, itā€™s given me slight headaches. Today after 20min I couldnā€™t wear them anymore. Too bad as I love them. Now, Metal571 said thereā€™s lots of variance on these, so, does that involve the treble peak issue as well? Would it make a difference if I exchange them, or should I just return them once and for all?

Picking up from where this left off on your original threadā€¦

If youā€™re using the Exlcusive mode with the Qobuz app it will bypass any Windows equalization (like Equalizer APO). The Qobuz desktop app does have an option to not be in exclusive mode, IIRC. If you disable that then Equalizer APO should work.

It also may not be the sound but the pressure. Even if you donā€™t feel the pain, the clamp might be pusing on a sensitive spot for you. I donā€™t know how likely this one is, but I suppose itā€™s possible.

Thereā€™s a bug in the Exclusive mode of the Windows Qobuz app it selects the sampling rate of the next queued song instead of the currently playing one.