I got my tuneup kit today. I will spend the weekend listening to the 610âs and commence surgery on Monday. 
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MAN, do these sound great on my LP! I will still do the surgery on Monday and maybe it will sharpen the sound up a bit.
And this is via SE!
All the other amps, except for the tube amp, seem like a waste of money now. 
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Hereâs the link to my Lawton modded TH-610.
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Iâm shocked! The 610 has much better padding on the backside of the driver than the TR-X00. The TR-X00 has none. You probably didnât need the tune up kit at all starting with the 610.
Only 3 pieces per side. Not a big deal.
The TH-X00 has zero padding on the backside of the driver and no gauze in the cupâŚ
Even after the Lawton mod, the backside of the driver isnât nearly as covered as the 610âŚ
Iâm really interested in getting a 610 now.
You said youâre not completely sold on the ZMF pads. Personally, I go back and forth between the Accessory House replacement pads and the ZMF. The Accessory House replacement pad is awesome and is a better fit for my ears than the stock pads and keeps everything sounding very close to stock.
I am also in the camp of not caring about the Dekoni attenuation rings. I got them out last week and have been listening to music with them and I do not hear a difference. Although many have stated here that they make a huge difference.
Itâs finally great to hear your opinions. Canât wait to hear more once youâve had more time with your new cans. They are beautiful! Again, congratulations.
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Thanks.
Yeah, the 610âs do a pretty go job with handling resonances in stock form.
I love the feel and build quality of ZMFâs pads. Theyâre top notch quality. I donât think the Ori is the best pad for a fully modded 610 (though is stock form, the Ori with the Dekoni rings were fantastic). I think it will sound better with a flatter, wider opening pad such as the Auteur, or Universe. If you go by ZMFâs guide regarding sound characteristics, I think maybe trying a suede/suede combination pad may work as well.
Hi,
I saw in the photo that the Th 610 behind the driver is this insulation.
It caught my eye because I already opened the Th x00 and Denon D2000 where it definitely wasnât used.
You can try to take them off and compare what you like better.
Sure he will insulate better than without.
However, it is perhaps precisely for this reason that it is the most critical of our series.
There are people who have switched to Tr x and said that they are much better.
I thought about it once and would say that the impact where it hits the wood arrives much more gently than without this insulation.
Which would certainly have an effect on the wood, but would then depend on the type of wood, where more or less vibrates.
I did not the Th 610 but the Tr x00 Mahogany and a converted D2000 with E-Mu cup and both share the Lawton Mod.
Lawton also states that you should test the insulation for the cups that are included.
And with the mahogany cups it made sense, with the E-Mu cups, on the other hand, it was not even necessary without insulation in the cups, which is what I mean with the wood and the type of wood. With the mod, the mahogany still sounds sharp to me where the converted Denon doesnât do that, thatâs my theory.
I think the purpose of the insulation behind the drivers is for reducing reflections/resonances and tuning. My understanding is that the less reflections, the more neutral the sound.
The type of wood used for the cups also affects the sound. A harder wood will result in better transients, and affect speed and decay. The volume inside of the cup will also impact the sound, especially bass (think of a subwoofer enclosure).
The stock cups of the 610âs are Walnut which is a relatively soft wood. I chose East Indian Rosewood for my Lawton Chambers which has more than double the hardness of Walnut (2440 vs. 1010 on the Janka scale), and is a traditional âtone woodâ used in the manufacture of acoustic instruments. The Lawton cups come with the anti-resonance attached so thereâs little to experiment with.
Hereâs a list of Janka Hardness:
Maybe try the lawton pads. They are a thinner pad (than Ori pads at least) and have a generally large round opening. May as well go full lawton since you seem to like how the mod has gone so far.
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The Lawton pads tighten the bass a lot, but it does also increase the treble. When I did the Lawton mod on my Th-x00 I preferred the Ori Leather Pads. The Lawton mod on my old TH610, the Leather Eikon pads. Unfortunately, the suede pads created sibilant treble, which was very unfortunate.
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I had tried the dekoni choice suede beyer pads before and it boosted the treble for me as well. I would like to try something like the Ori or eikon pads, but cows hide. Too bad those arenât a thing.
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The sheepskin eikon pads definitely help with the treble.
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I think the Lawton Chambers were a significant enough of a change that it calls for much more open pads than the stock 610. Itâs more in line with the TH900 with less âenergyâ, if that makes sense.
Iâm pretty sure a more open pad will improve the sound. If I go by ZMFâs chart, the suede will reduce the treble, which is counter to what most people have experienced here.
Hereâs the ZMF pad chart I linked earlier:
Did my tune-up. Donât notice a huge change. The bass seems a bit cleaner. Noisy music still sounds noisy.
I will have to try a wide selection, starting tomorrow.
On the up side, I didnât screw anything up! 
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Nice work.
Yeah, I found that it âtightenedâ things up a bit. It definitely didnât clean up/fix some of the music I listen to.
It is never going to compete with the Elexâs, or even the Sundaraâs. I will do a couple of hours of rock, jazz and blues tomorrow. And then I will switch over to the Sundaraâs to compare.
Closed backs REALLY have to excel to be great. Just by virtue of being a closed back, they are handicapped to start.
My big fear is doing a cup change (MINIMUM $500.00 in Canuck bucks, landed) and then going âMeh, I guess itâs betterâ.
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I didnât really have anything against the sound of these when I had them, Maybe slightly over priced for what they sound like. My issues were more comfort related. They sat so loose on my head that if I leaned forward or back I was afraid Iâd lose them. And I have yet to own a Fostex that I find the earpads to be comfortable for long term listening on yet. That includes the TH900. And I donât spend what these cost expecting to fix things myself. I do still think theyâre attractive looking cans. Probably should be closer to the $350-400 mark.
Cons) They lack the clarity of the Elex or even the Sundaraâs. On the flip side they are NOT bass canons.
Pros) Nice sound, nice looking and pretty good isolation.
Pretty good on the SE output of Liquid Platinum and I am really looking forward to using the balanced output.
