thanks you, ill definitely read it.
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Thats still massive compared to iems.
12,7 times bigger than the average (10mm) DD in an iem.
You can even experience the driver size factor with iem vs iem, take one of those small (6-7mm) DDs from like Sennheiser and compare the bass in that to 10mm+ DDs (or if u wanna overkill it, the sony 16mm DD iems) and you see that you will need more bass quantity in the smaller one to reach the same perceived bass quantity. (also why a lot of the iems with tiny DDs have more bass in their graphs than the other bigger ones.)
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That is custom eq not a real one just personal .
Are you try noise listener not phase ,you donât know your ear listener illusion ,not all chifi good .
Sure ,sub and mid sub ,mid air ,mid ,treble ,mid treble ,mid treble ,high treble ,oracle he doesnât know Harman .And that is wavelet ,custom eq target preference different than auto preset that is by computer ,human and machine mistake
Bro your english is even worse than mine i really donât know what are you saying 
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Mine is the same too. 
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Curse of not being born in 
land
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Right, it feels like itâs drilling into my brain.
To the OP. We all hear differently and we all have varying impact of hearing damage from life. Harmon simply did their best to gather up all the opinions they could. Many like what youâve recently discovered but a modest percentage most certainly do not. Thatâs OK. Itâs just a bell curve target. Itâs not the Holy Grail of frequency response.
Ideally, youâd find a IEM or speaker that is within a few dB of YOUR target. 1-3dB tweaks are usually much better tolerated by transducers vs. ~9dB
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it wouldnât be drilling or harsh for the average ear since its based of df with 2 db less of gain( 711 couples roughly over estimate this part by this much), and df is almost how the average ear hears in a room where audio comes from all direction, but yeah if its harsh or dull to you then you can adjust it like this, just keep the rising midrange to avoid mud and mimic the natural way we hear (the main point of the thread). the good part is that you can see the graph while eqing and hear it and adjust it as much as you like, the person who created eq tool of squig is the main hero tbh.
No need to try and fix anything for me. Glad youâve found what you prefer.
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got qcy t13 anc2 (qcy is a xiaomi sub brand) today for 13$, got nice anc with 4 mics, touch controls, 10mm dd. feltt like a steal at that price and couldnât ignore the deal.
this is the stock fr
this is my main eq for them
the channel matching seems great considering they are that cheap. sound wise though, without eq it sounds like the graph, subjectively for me way way too much bass and the 6k boost in relative to the dip after it makes the mid treble recessed and soft sounding, like any metal song that gets past 80 bpm sounds like mashed potatoes on them.
with eq it sounds exactly like what you see, sound very nice actually. the only disappointment i had was that these buds cut off at 16200 hz just like you see on the graph, but buds fe and buds 2 pro could reach 19k . the results? it looses a tiny bit of bite, resolution and the shimmer from the cymbals from well recorded songs but other than that it sounds perfect with eq for most of the songs i listen to mainly metal that hardly extend past 12- 15k.
vs the buds fe smsung
they both sound amazing with eq, endgame for 90% of the songs i listen too, both trash can without eq but maybe qcy sounds bit clearer. the qcy handles eq easier around midrange and lower treble meanwhile buds fe responds better with upper treble boost and extension. samsung gets slightly louder. im happy with both sound wise, side grades for me and happy to have both. anc and build quality are similar(both cheap feeling) and battery of the qcy seems similar to fe with my 2 hour test. also the buds fe sounded sidegrade to the buds 2 pro i had so qcy is also a side grade to buds 2 pro a 200$+ tws at retail.
vs a 600$ tribrid âendgameâ iem
oracles handle treble boost and reduction better and the extension is also better, you can flatten the 15k peak on it to get smooth sound if you want, it can also get louder with a source like past 90db that i donât care, other than that the rest of fr can be eqed to what i like just like the qcy. if oracles were 30$ and qcys were13$, i would say its worth getting over qcy sound wise but at 600$ its only worth getting them if you have 50 million in the bank or sth.
overall oracles are slightly better with songs recorded with million dollar budget, like this song (cymbals)
vs my old beyer dynamic and audio technica earphones they are side grades too.
vs my speakers
they both sound very nice, speakers represents the music in a bigger and a more grand way, and qcy is all in head. but i canât shove the speakers in my ears when im in mountain and trees. both amazing overall, speakers offers better res and treble extension that i can hear a bit past 21000 hz but qcy crushes them in terms of value and practicality.
verdict: if you know how to read frs and are willing to spend half an hour to eq to what you like the best then they are a fantastic deal at sub 20$ budget, without eq they sound soft boomy and low fi unless you want a boomy sound for certain genres. we are at the times of history when we can download the music that took years of effort and money to produce for free, get nice SQ on the go for the cheapest and change the sound with a touch on the smartphone, truly blessed to be alive tbh.
Iâm curious what your age is? Hearing past 21kHz is usually reserved for <10 year old females
Iâm 58 and top out about 13kHz but my annual visit to audiologist/ENT I passed the 250Hz-8kHz vocal audibility test perfectly (spoken words with every decreasing amplitude) and she was impressed Iâve maintained that ability - though to be fair she probably sees more people with hearing issues than not
Probably due to it using SBC or AAC (no mentions on codec usually means this). Although if you can use SBC-XQ it should not roll off that early.
My hearing rolls off hard after 20k, like i can faintly hear up untill 21300hz but "effectively"it tops off at 20k. This is 20k vs 22k test i did now.
The medical test measures up to 8k though, and
natural hearing roll off starts from 20k so most 50+ people with safe jobs should have perfect hearing upto 8k.
I had forgotten about that site. I need to re-take the test with IEMs. Most recently I just been going off EQ which isnât the best as the content may not have much above 13kHz. Edit: re-checked on audiocheck.net and I top out at 13k
Good on you for protecting your hearing!
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Its a bummer, the 16k is robust then suddenly the audio cuts off.