Uh, I feel so relived right now. I will watch the full video in some hours. What surprises me is he said there is almost no difference with Xbass. For me it is quite a game changer. Literally no bass vs all the bass I need. But he is running them balanced. Maybe that makes some difference, idk.
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so guess we need $1000+ amps for $500 headphones but $1000 headphones run fine off of phones?
thanks hobby my wallet will be forever empty lmao
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So which is it? Weāve got people here saying that theyāve had personal experience with more power making a noticeable difference, and Zeos saying that balanced on the Zen Can is sufficient.
And me too, Zen Can balanced sounds fine to me but I donāt have anything more powerful. I can only compared the sound to IEMās (IEM guy usually).
Sensitivity - 92dB Impedance - 18Ī©
Yeah, I canāt see anybody who is trying to make the claim this thing needs more power than a zen can as remotely accurate. Thereās a huge difference between lacking power and scaling. Power does not = better sound, enough power just gets it loud enough for listening and stabilizes the natural signature(lacking power of course kills bass sounds muffled, etc etc). You canāt just throw a ton of power at a headphone and make it sound better as not only does it get louder you can risk blowing a headphone(especially in the case of lower impedances). While I canāt speak on the headphone its not here yet, this is definitely screaming scalingā¦ the arya has this same factor, sundara and ananda too have this to where they sound better off better equipment.
Better chip, better circuitry, better synergy, etc will cause a headphone to perform differently and either better or worse. I wouldnāt be concernedā¦ if your using an amp/dac and its getting plenty loud and it sounds okay to you then your fine. Donāt sweat it.
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Having a Sivga Phoenix, edition xs is basically a Sundara with more bass, a little more refined sound and better soundtage?
going by the graph, it looks more in line with the Ananda actually but with a fixed sub bass and a more balanced treble with less dip in the 10k.
Zeos doesnāt hear differences between dacs and can only describe amps sound as worm/cold, bruh
He would be splendid with any dac/amp
Iām not saying the Zen Can isnāt powerful enough to push them, Iām saying that if you are using the Zen Can and think they donāt sound good / donāt have good bass or soundstage then that is the issueā¦ they need more power.
Everyoneās ears are trained different. If you have experienced many high end headphones before and know what they sound like, it will be more noticeable to you. If you are someone new to the hobby and this is your first headphone into the hobby - you donāt know what youāre missing out on.
What I find peculiar is that Resolve described the XS to be more zingy in the treble region than the Ananda, while the consensus so far has been that the XS is generally less fatiguing and laid back compared to the Ananda. I donāt know, maybe on average people have less trouble with the peak on 12k of the XS.
Anyway, I finally ordered these, but I think itāll be a long time before I see them unfortunately
When I was first listening to these, there was a painful peak somewhere in the frequency that aligns with female vocals on the high endā¦ Iāve had them broken in now for over 80 hours and itās not as bad as it was when I first got them, so I think they smooth out a little bit with burn in. But there is still a peak of sorts
Was really really noticeable on this song:
Spiritual (Mriya) [feat. Brooke Tomlinson]
Using Tidal, playing off a Burson Solo X3
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I see. Well, Iām very inexperienced, so I actually donāt know what frequencies bother me the most, but I think I might be a little on the treble sensitive side. I guess Iāll see when Iāll be able to hear them lol
Yea they arenāt really bad for treble overall for me, it was just that one song that I literally wrote a note down to go back to later which was: āouch earsāā¦ but treble generally doesnāt bother me.
The only time I can say that the peaks were actually overbearing for me and I couldnāt use a headphone was when I was gaming with the SendyAudio Aiva and I was playing Fortnite quite some time agoā¦ the gun shooting sounds and reloading sounds had a certain peak in the metallic sounds that was extremely painful and I thought my ears were going to bleed, so I had to change to another set, and eventually just played Apex Legends instead OmegaLUL
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Damn, that sounds painful 
Fortunately for now I didnāt experience anything that bad, so fingers crossed that Iāll get to enjoy these cans without much trouble
Kind of a long shot but how would they compare to the HD 8xxās?
Definitely. I didnāt experience any peaky treble at first but I EQed them using the Edition X v2 auto eq and that brought it out. Iām gonna let it burn for a bit more and see if that helps but Iām also receiving the Bifrost 2 tomorrow which Iāve read might just take that treble peak right off the top. Weāll see
Have my bass boosted by EQ, but these things just put a stupid smile on my face with this song
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It definitely depends on the person - 12k doesnāt bother me at all, 8k can be a little annoying if it is boosted too much, any sort of boost over flat @ 5-6k feels like sticking a pencil through my eardrum.
For me, any listener fatigue stems from that presence region between 4-6k.
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