So I finally found pads that don’t ruin the soundstage/imaging (i think they improve it actually), I don’t think they mess that much with the sound either, but I still ended up putting one layer of toilet paper below and now these went from “I can’t really wear them for more than 20 minutes” to probably my most comfortable headphones, sound is better too (but that might be more the paper, hard to ab cause pad swapping these is hell)
Also they don’t include the rings, you gotta order those from somewhere else*