šŸ”· Holo Spring 2

Bit of drama with my Spring 2 KTE - to catch up those who havenā€™t read earlier posts of mine, my model was an ex-demo unit that I returned to the vendor due to an undeclared scratch on the front panel. I agreed to pay the difference to get a brand new until to replace the scratched used one.

Anyway, my new unit arrived at the store belonging to the guy Iā€™m buying it from, and heā€™s emailed me to say that there will be further delays. Why? Because at some point in the shipping chain, someone has decided to check the contents of the box by cutting an access hatch. In the process, theyā€™ve managed to pierce the box of the Spring 2, and the bag itā€™s wrapped in, and scratch the top side of the case. So, the seller is taking it up with the courier and the distributor to get the matter resolved for me, and my wait goes on with the Cyan to comfort me in the meantime.

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Darn, i had and issue like that with glasses where the lenses constantly got scratched in transit.

Is the new scratch in a spot where you can hide it with other gear? Maybe finagle a small discount?

They should pad the top of the DAC with some methamphetamine so that doesnā€™t happen. :smiley:

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Finally, itā€™s here. The dude ended up getting a new top cover for it from the supplier, which took ages. He then replaced it for me and sent it over, so itā€™s in perfect new condition with no lacerations.

Got to say, doesnā€™t sound the same as the ex-demo model I had. That one was noticeably cleaner and clearer than the Cyan - more spacious and less congested. This new one doesnā€™t sound as good as I remember that one sounding (having been sitting powered on for the last 36 hours or so). The seller did say that these need a lot of burn-in, but that doesnā€™t seen to be most peopleā€™s experience? I have a Bifrost 2 sitting nearby that I havenā€™t used in a while, and it sounds better to me than the Spring 2 right now.

Do R2R DACs tend to need burning in, beyond waiting for them to get nice and toasty?

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Some more than othersā€¦I hear the Yggy can take the better part of a week to ā€˜warm upā€™, let alone burn in.

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Something tells me you may have romanticized your memory a little bit. Let it go and see what happens. My Cyan did change slightly but nothing dramatic from the first day. I leave it on all the time. The change was clear through, less edgy, not less sharp, gained a little bit of smoothness.

If youā€™re judging an R-2R that hasnā€™t been left on for less than 48 hours youā€™re not being fair. And if itā€™s the Yggy, then you want it on for a week at least to sound right (as Iā€™ve seen on forums, I havenā€™t heard that myself). The Bifrost 2 to me sounds good after about an hour or two.

Also, remember to use the balanced outs. I messaged M0N and he let me know that the balanced outs use both ladders for the output versus a single set of ladders for the SE outputs. So if the sound is clear but kinda thin and the bass seems neutered compared to your memory, definitely make sure youā€™re using the balanced outputs.

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All good points. Not panicking yet. Iā€™ll give it some time. Sadly I have to use the RCA outs with my Pendant, but itā€™s balanced all the way with the GS-X.

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With tubes you might get away with more on the single ended side.

Now I am curious! what DAC did you buy

A few, I think at the time it was a deal on a lampizator big 7 mk2 and a nagra classic dac, both now have been upgraded to a golden gate 2 and a hd dac + mps, among others for the desk. The may also didnā€™t stack up against my main 2ch dac in my living room, an aries cerat kassandra ii ref, so I kinda wanted to get things up to at least that level. You can see what Iā€™m currently using on my profile since there are a few others as well

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Get out of here, 60kg :dizzy_face: Would love to listen to that dac

It is a really nice dac, was lucky enough to find a used one

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If I remember correctly @M0N carried the DAC on one hand and the amp on the other :muscle:

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I wish lol

Used Kassandra in case anyone has extra cash burning a hole in their pockets

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Hi guys, Iā€™ve been using and enjoying the Spring 2 KTE for a month or more now. I thought enough of it to justify parting with my Cyan, which was an EXCELLENT unit.

Anyway, I was aware that using the RCA output on the Spring 2 (and with the Cyan for that matter) only actually utilises half of the DAC and not the full R2R ladder array (if that makes sense), whereas using the balanced XLR output uses the full thing. Presumably this is because there are two sets of resistors - one for each channel - and using a single-ended output just uses the one. Please do correct me if Iā€™m wrong. I use a GS-X Mini with the Spring 2, but also a ZMF Pendant which is a single-ended amp.

To circumvent this, Iā€™ve been using one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nobsound-Balanced-Converter-Selector-Splitter/dp/B07DC3Y3G2

This allows me to run the balanced XLR output from my DAC, then connect to the Pendant via RCA. It seems to work perfectly well.

@M0N, am I missing something or is this going to give me the full benefit of the DAC without the compromise of using the RCA outputs?

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Iā€™ve been loving my Cyan, you telling everyone how great the Spring 2 is isnā€™t helping my curiosity and my wallet is itchy. :slight_smile:

If you sell the Cyan, I would encourage you to offer it to someone in the community here as itā€™s a great jump up from the $600 to $700 dollar price point and offers a genuine taste of the high end without it being obscenely priced.

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Iā€™m pretty happy with my Spring 2 and GS-X Mini overall. The DAC is fantastic and fits on my desk. I do think about getting a Sarga DAC or Yggydrasil with an A2 board but overallā€¦ The Spring 2 is phenomenal. Only issue is that occasionally the the usb drops out, just cycle inputs and it is resolved.

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Not to worry - the Cyan is so close to the Spring 2. I found the Cyan to feel slightly closer and bassier, whereas the Spring 2 has a greater sense of space and detail, but weā€™re talking fine, fine margins. The (relative) bass and intimacy of the Cyan is something that I could see lots of people preferring - to make another comparison, the Cyan is wider and spacier to me than the Bifrost 2, for example.

If I didnā€™t have the Spring 2 sitting right here, I probably would have kept the Cyan.

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