IEM discussion thread (Part 1)

From following different FiiO threads on Head-Fi I know the 3 or so FiiO employees that are active there are very fast with possible solutions. Wouldn’t hurt to see how far you can get with them.

It’s problems like these that made me ask them when they will actually start working on top quality TWS instead of all these mechanical tricks that work until they don’t. They surprised me saying they actually ARE working on it. Make it a modular system and we’re good for years.

drftr

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Thank you. Sincerely. You and the others really helped me with this succinct assessment. :muscle:t3:

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I am using utws5 for some time with my fd5 and fh3 and no problems at all. Was constantly disconnecting iems from utws body and no problems. So i hope you will not have problems with utws newer version. Perhaps they fixed quality as my unit seems very good made. It takes btr5 place for me as sound quality is really good and very similar. Only using with aptx yet so adaptive cennection should be even better. Perhaps best sound possible with true wireless possibility with these utws5 and good iem. Utws3 i heard really had quality problems.

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The UTWS5 arrived much earlier than I expected. I have the Katos with the MMCX-to-0.78 connecter on them now and they appear to work well, but I’m terrified of trying any of my other IEMs on them.

I’ve reached out to Fiio on Head-Fi (someone online said they don’t respond to emails) and we’ll see if they respond. If not I’ll probably shame them with my story on a Head-Fi thread and Amazon review.

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In which case I will add to the Head-Fi thread that I won’t buy the UTWS5 because of this, while including all those FiiO people. Bad products is one thing but bad products with bad service is unacceptable.

drftr

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Surprise listen (of the year?) for me: The TFZ Tequila1. I’ve seen it on Penon’s site before and always dismissed it as probably being “a bass heavy IEM from an already bass-centric manufacturer, with atomic symbols on the chassis for crying out loud. Sure to be a bass swamp without finesse”.

I got a bundle lately with this being one of the IEMs included (in a better design than the radioactive symbol style shell, I think) and decided to give them a go.

Here’s what’s funny. I’d take these over the FD5 any day. These are actually what I thought the FD5 would sound like, before being generally disappointed, especially at the price and touting so many proprietary technologies.

On the imaging front? Nothing special. But the elevated bass doesn’t tangle with anything, it’s an incredible smooth and relaxing slightly warmed up listen that’s continually inoffensive while engaging. Plenty of detail. I expected mids to be scooped but actually one of the places it can sound most euphoric is female vocals like Skott’s Mermaid from Chapter I

Stage is the usual, but the “usual” is pretty good with IEMs these days. There are times it sounds pretty open. Overall it’s a much less claustrophobic feel/fit that a large universal IEM, but then again isolation is well above average in my opinion.

Actual bassheads would hope for a more visceral slam.

Coherency and timbre are both very very good, it’s a single DD after all.

Hadn’t expected to see the interesting openish grills on the back, clear under certain lighting.

Expected it to be MMCX but actually there’s a very elegant obtrusion that has 2 pin connectors in it.

I think I prefer the DQ6 which costs even less by quite a bit (which is saying something), but not by a wild margin, and it probably comes down to taste. I’ll have to switch back later tonight to remind myself of the differences. On the way home tonight I was bowled over by the timbre of the DQ6 (I’m not actually that great at identifying timbre usually, between good and great) when listening to a Max Richter song. Even I knew something was “righter” than usual about the sound of the violin. It was considerably more emotional to listen to. So I’m a big DQ6 fan.

This is a great all rounder IEM though, out of the blue! I’m not sure I’ve ever seen it discussed or recommended. Build quality is solid too.

Maybe hard to rec when I’m mentioning a $22 set that could be its equal or better depending on taste. But this is doing just about nothing wrong and so much right, so unpretentiously, I had to spare 8 minutes or however long I’ve taken jotting this down to give it some credit, give it some recognition and a pat on the head. So far from the Smiths (which can risk sounding thin), Tom Waits (who can risk being too abrasive for vocals), to some German metal, some funk, some Beatles, some female vocalist centered tracks… it’s playing them well.



EDIT: Hot dang, Skott’s acoustic version of Glitter and Gloss through these… well now! I’ll have to A/B with the DQ6s soon.

EDIT2: Popped the DQ6s in, more sub-bass which I’m always a huge fan of. Mids sounded more compressed to begin with, with perhaps less note weight, but the longer they’re in the fuller they sound (mental burn-in). I’d probably end up favoring the DQ6 for larger stage, and perfect sub-bass levels.

I’m not saying anyone needs to revisit these. But they’re not new, I feel like I should have heard about these kicking butt in 2018. Like I said, I’d rather listen to them than the FiiO FD5. They’re no longer competitive at MSRP, but they would have been a couple years back and I wanted to give them a shout out.

I’m glad I like the DQ6 tuning so much, as I may have to downgrade to them from what I consider to be my ideal IEMs to recoup some funds for life/non-audio priorities. And I think I could be quite happy if they provided the music portions of my day.

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OMG look what the MMCX-to-2 pin adaptor did to my Katos!

Katobroke

How the hell do I get this pin out of the earphone? I’ve tried tweezers and a needle, but I haven’t had any luck.

First the UTWS3 broke in my FD5, now this. I think this time it was because the earphone regularly would slip off the adapter and I’d have to put it back in, or because I’d have to readjust it in my ear. But I never had any problems remotely like this with normal cables. I really liked the portability and convenience of the UTWS3 and the UTWS5, but I think I’m going to go back to my Qudelix, because this isn’t worth it, I’m literally destroying earphones.

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Got myself a deal this weekend

ThieAudio Oracle, like-new, for 440$

Love these already.

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A common trick to get out a faulty plug stuck in my guitar amp’s female socket was to add a blob of superglue at the tip of some metallic thin thing (e.g the flat head of a nail) and wait for it to cure, then you would pull it and voilá. But the area is way bigger than a 2Pin, so I don’t know if it would work in your case. Other than that, I think Moondrop offers 1 year of warranty that you can work with.

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I’ll give superglue a shot…

Dip just the tip of a fine clothes pin into super glue → blow onto it to set it a bit → press into the stuck pin, but be careful you don’t press too deeply. You may need magnifying glasses. Keep blowing onto it to help the superglue set.

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Well, I didn’t get the pin out, but I think I did manage to completely destroy the socket with super glue. :sob:

I am not certain about how the intrusion in the housing is made in Katos, but if it is all metal there is a slight chance (if you did not spill the glue to the second hole - picture would tell the story):

  • first of all cyanoacrylates (super glues as they are called) are quite brittle after curing, so you should be able to just scratch them off with use of the needle for example
  • the second option is using qtip soaked with acetone solvent on the glue residues. Metal in general are resistive to acetone and the glue is not. Be careful with acetone though, as it is highly volatile. It is not very conductive, but be sure to dry the earpiece throughout in some silica gel or something similar before usage.

You need the pin out still. The gluing option seem like the best one, but you need very stable grip and something like 0.5 mm in diameter (like drill bit end) and a little bit of patience. If you fail just clean the hole from residues and try again.

There are dense and more liquidy cyanoacrylates available on the market so you could try out what works for you.

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Thanks for this! I’ll see what I can do.

What do you all think about the BL-Max so far? I’m slightly interested only because it’s 2DD and it graphs pretty well compared to the 03/05 pair. Is it too much of a side grade?? But it’s so cheap…

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I have a mele, bl-max, dq6 comparison coming. But haven’t had much head time yet.

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I’ve written my first review, feel free to review my review for me - I’d love to improve and better organize before writing a review for the YanYin Aladdins which I am now free to do.

Shame it’s such a downer to start on:

I can go on in detail for almost any song why the Aladdin is the best thing ever, so looking for advice on how to condense repeated comments while still justifying them with examples. I might pick a piece from each genre or something similar, if it’s condensed I can get into timestamps and be very specific.

I’ve been wanting to make a thread here about the Aladdins and rec them constantly, but I didn’t think I could do that without in-depth and detailed support for each claim and compliment. It’s of no use to anyone to have to listen to my vague praise and general euphoria without actual examples.

You may notice a lack of a comparisons section. While I’ve actually listened to a good many IEMs, my budget requires that I usually own one at a time, or have a brief period of overlap or A/Bing. I can’t in good faith publish comparisons if I don’t have sets in hand, audio memory is too fickle.

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Nice job :sunglasses::sunglasses: And congrats for finding some free time to spend on your hobby :slight_smile: adulting is hard - I still haven’t written my impressions of the Aladdin :grimacing:

Things I liked:

  • Pros and cons at the start
  • Review system at the start
  • Being transparent about the review process, payment, etc
  • Basing performance on specific tracks
  • The commonalities section

My two cents:

  • Maybe a summary of the performance for the bass, mids, treble? I feel like I only knew a couple of the songs you mentioned, and I don’t know if I’ll put in the time to listen to all the specific tracks :sweat_smile:
  • I do agree that grouping the notes on specific songs by genres would help bring more structure to the review
  • Pros and cons are a bit redundant if you have the TL;DR
  • Maybe a FR graph (obviously doesn’t have to be produced by you if you don’t have the equipment)
  • Specific section on fit & recommended eartips

Hope this helps!

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This does help - thank you!

Shout out to the DQ6 being absolutely ridiculous for its class. Listening to them with starline tips, and there’s no fair comparison to other budget sets like the QOA Vesper etc. I don’t like any IEM more than the Aladdin at time of writing, and I enjoy these a good 70-80% as much, for about $20.

I like the tuning of the Vesper for example, but its exaggerations and compromises are patently obvious and part of it being a “fun price”.

Certain sets are removing the “wonky but fun” category altogether from the budget sector, if this can sound this good for $20, there are no excuses when it comes to $60/$80 sets that are given a lot of forgiveness due to their low price tag.

I say this as someone typically not a KZ fan. I did like the ZEX too but couldn’t take the treble, and I’m less into a V shaped tuning.

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