IEM discussion thread (Part 1)

Love it that i can export eq settings to wavelet!!! Any recomendations for the S12 and Olina?

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My advice for Olina is to bring down the treble to the HANA2021 or the O2.

For the S12, I recommend reducing the gain at 8KHz e.g. PK Fc 8000 HZ Gain -6 dB Q 4. It is hard to tell how much is coupler resonance related, so playing around after listening can be helpful. Raising the bass shelf is fun as well.

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How do i install the exported wavlet files this produces?

When will Sennheiser make good IEMs? The wait continues, but is it worth it ?! :upside_down_face: :nerd_face:

What app/program are you usng for EQ (NM Wavelet). Perhaps someone can help you.

I mostly use PEACE (Peterā€™s Equalizer APO Configuration Extension) which has no problem importing the Squig.link Equalizer Export txt PEQ files (not the Wavelet file export). Although, I usually drop the pre-amplifying gain down to -6.0 dB.

I think you might have to save the ā€œExport Graphic EQ (For Wavelet)ā€ with a ā€˜.csvā€™ extension instead of txt.

I also noticed that there are some ā€˜-0.0ā€™ entries on the Wavelet export, this might cause issues, you might have to delete the ā€˜-ā€™ infront of any ā€˜0.0ā€™ although it might work fine without the change (IDK, I donā€™t use wavelet).

It is also important that not a single entry (of the 127 frequency ā€˜bandsā€™) is deleted.

PEQ

Preamp: -6.0 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 4.0 dB Q 1.200
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 2500 Hz Gain -1.0 dB Q 1.410
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 8000 Hz Gain -5.0 dB Q 2.820
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 13633 Hz Gain -6.0 dB Q 0.500

Wavelet

GraphicEQ: 20 0.0; 21 -0.1; 22 -0.2; 23 -0.4; 24 -0.7; 26 -1.1; 27 -1.4; 29 -1.8; 30 -2.0; 32 -2.3; 34 -2.5; 36 -2.7; 38 -2.9; 40 -3.1; 43 -3.2; 45 -3.3; 48 -3.4; 50 -3.4; 53 -3.5; 56 -3.6; 59 -3.6; 63 -3.7; 66 -3.7; 70 -3.7; 74 -3.8; 78 -3.8; 83 -3.8; 87 -3.8; 92 -3.9; 97 -3.9; 103 -3.9; 109 -3.9; 115 -3.9; 121 -3.9; 128 -3.9; 136 -3.9; 143 -3.9; 151 -3.9; 160 -4.0; 169 -4.0; 178 -4.0; 188 -4.0; 199 -4.0; 210 -4.0; 222 -4.0; 235 -4.0; 248 -4.0; 262 -4.0; 277 -4.0; 292 -4.0; 309 -4.0; 326 -4.0; 345 -4.0; 364 -4.0; 385 -4.0; 406 -4.0; 429 -4.0; 453 -4.0; 479 -4.0; 506 -4.0; 534 -4.0; 565 -4.0; 596 -4.1; 630 -4.1; 665 -4.1; 703 -4.1; 743 -4.1; 784 -4.1; 829 -4.1; 875 -4.1; 924 -4.1; 977 -4.2; 1032 -4.2; 1090 -4.2; 1151 -4.2; 1216 -4.3; 1284 -4.3; 1357 -4.4; 1433 -4.4; 1514 -4.5; 1599 -4.6; 1689 -4.7; 1784 -4.8; 1885 -4.9; 1991 -5.0; 2103 -5.2; 2221 -5.3; 2347 -5.4; 2479 -5.5; 2618 -5.5; 2766 -5.5; 2921 -5.5; 3086 -5.5; 3260 -5.5; 3443 -5.5; 3637 -5.5; 3842 -5.6; 4058 -5.6; 4287 -5.7; 4528 -5.9; 4783 -6.1; 5052 -6.3; 5337 -6.6; 5637 -6.9; 5955 -7.3; 6290 -7.9; 6644 -8.7; 7018 -9.8; 7414 -11.1; 7831 -12.3; 8272 -12.4; 8738 -11.6; 9230 -10.8; 9749 -10.3; 10298 -10.1; 10878 -10.1; 11490 -10.1; 12137 -10.2; 12821 -10.2; 13543 -10.2; 14305 -10.1; 15110 -9.9; 15961 -9.4; 16860 -8.9; 17809 -8.1; 18812 -7.2; 19871 -6.5

i use wavelet on Fiio M11 ltd dac

I have an S12 EQ setting that is labelled as ā€œS12 Bass-o-maticā€, and it is basically a +6db low shelf at 166, which is enough to give it some slam. I use Peace/APO on PC.

I get headaches, but still need some music to work sometimes, so I also have a profile that drops the 4-8k range, since that is usually where most of my problems are. I can have a headache and listen quietly with the right EQ.

I thought most people were saying good things about the IE600, despite the prices, and being out of stock all the time.

Agreed, I recall RBW telling us all about the Aladdin last year, and many people have raved about the Canon. Yanyin seem to really know what they are doing on the tuning side. The Moonlight seems good from the few reviews I have seen, and the Rosemary is the only one I donā€™t know any about.

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I have the IE300 and I think theyā€™re phenomenal, actually. Particularly on my RebelAmp they sound so good. Was just listening to them, I think I like them better than my Katos (which are also great).

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Iā€™m past the point of anything I purchase reaching me before a trip of over a month long ā€“ itā€™ll be interesting, with the Serial and Vernus in hand, to see if I grow closer or further to both or either of them. Some forced stability.

Edit: If nothing else, the Serial continues to please on every listen. Some recent albums: Volcano by Temples, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah by the band of the same name, Titanic Rising by Weyes Blood. All have very satisfying mids for vocals, and just the right amount of bass, always.

So why have I even been looking at other possibilities? Itā€™s a question for the ages. I should listen more and shop classifieds less. I just have more opportunities to flick through classifieds in a matter of seconds than I do to sit down, block my ears, and listen to music for a while.

EDIT: I may not get my Iris 2.0 back from my wife any time soon :wink: , but in earbuds world, a prototype of the Berserker 1 (different driver, similar bass but different mids/treble apparently) is probably the last thing that will reach me before the trip. @MMag05 is an absolute legend.

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Iā€™ve got the Vernus in, and have hopped back to ā€œatmosphericā€ from ā€œreferenceā€ nozzles. Itā€™s a great experience, apart from sometimes the sub bass extension ending just a little too early. Phenomenal technicalities otherwise.

One potentially big issue for home use at the least ā€” sound leakage is massive.

If I take them out of my ears, and seal off the eartips with my fingers, everything can still be heard very clearly coming out of the numerous vents.

So the ideal listening time would be alone time like driving in the car or doing the dishes, but at least one of those creates enough ambient noise that the sound leakage might cause a reverse issue, ie: poor isolation.

Itā€™s a real shame, the Eclipse driver tech is in its own league, but probably requires this level of venting.

Plus these fit me better than almost any other IEM. Usually shells are a little out of my ears, these nest inside, right up against whatever theyā€™re meant to be. All the more surprising that sound can still leak out of the vents that must be right up against skin or close to it.

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Not really, look at the Zen/Zen-Pro.

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Couldnā€™t remember what their venting was like, thanks

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They were well-vented, but I donā€™t recall anywhere near the same amount of leakage/lack of isolation. Itā€™s both a gift and a curse I think, since the Vernus has such a broad soundstage, probably due in part to its almost open nature. I can say that I have a trans-atlantic flight this weekend and Iā€™m not bringing the Vernus just because I donā€™t want to be rude to my seated neighbors lol.

I got some last-minute buddies to join me on the trip to Poland next week: Moondrop Solution 8! Scooped an open box pair from Headphones.com (basically flawless less some missing stock tips, which doesnā€™t bug me at all). Got 'em paired up with a Xinhs Graphene 4-core and some Azla SednaEarfitā€¦Light Shorts, I think? All I know is they look and feel fantastic, and sound even better! Iā€™ll be A/Bā€™ing them with my Fearless S8Z (both 8BA, different tuning profiles for sure) on the trip.



Shoutouts to the folks at Headphones.com for the fantastic customer service and helping make sure I got them in time!

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Iā€™m jelly, congratz! Have a nice and safe trip!

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In-depth review on Yanyin Moonlight by Dsnuts: Yanyin Moonlight - Reviews | Headphone Reviews and Discussion - Head-Fi.org.
Includes lots of comparisons. Juicy review!

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Iā€™m by no means trying to start internet drama, but how trustworthy are his reviews? I think heā€™s great for comparison like sound signatures and whatnot but he really seems biased from all the free stuff he gets. It seems he loves every IEM he gets his hands on.

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Yeah I can see where youā€™re coming from. I do think heā€™s knowledgeable, and his take on the Moonlight is in agreement with all the other reviewers to date. He was just ahead of the curve for Yanyin Aladdin and Canon, and now Moonlight. Canā€™t speak about his reviews of other IEMs as I havenā€™t tried those myself. Itā€™s good to read any review with a pinch of salt I guess.

Edit: Dsnuts got a discount on the Moonlight and wasnā€™t a freebie, according to the review.

Edit 2: I am not a fan of his cable reviews. I just donā€™t hear a difference, but to each their ownā€¦

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Mhm, It does seem that a lot of people are in agreeance with him on the moonlight.

Iā€™m really not trying drag his name through the mud mind you. I think he has some good perspective on some things, I just donā€™t trust him fully. His wording is too positive and he bend things to make everything he gets sound good.

But yeah, take it all with a grain of salt and let the hype train settle before making a choice.

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I havenā€™t seen many posts on the Thieaudio Elixir. I just received a set from Amazon today. So far, I like the sound. But thatā€™s not why Iā€™m postingā€¦. In the box came three sets of different tuning filters. The default on the iems is a metal screen. Then a set that could be filters the same as Tanya O2, then a set of white filters. And of course, no explanation for them in the box.

Before I go and test them, I thought Iā€™d check here first.

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