IEM discussion thread (Part 1)

When i first heard ej07m, I was surprised by the subbass it produced. Sounded like my 12" subwoofer i placed next to my desk. Occasionally I feel the subbass can be little too much on few tracks i tried, but that’s just little complaint. Nonetheless, it is very detailed and punchy iem.

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That’s what happens when you get sub-bass focused tuning similar to diffuse-field. Amazing set :black_heart:

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Get Variations or EJ07M. $700 for a single DD… you’re paying for the build & design at that point :man_shrugging:

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EJ07m was the fastest buy of my life and I had Mests and U12T in front of me. Insane price to performance.

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I got the holy shit factor as well with my metal KL version, I am super excited to hear the retune and reshell . The sound stage is crazy as well.

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My Kinera Gramr came in the mail. As a mic its a decent step up from using the mic on the Q5K and it means I dont have to have it clipped to my collar anymore!

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Where did you order from? Did you order the USB-C adapter too?
Have it in the cart on Ali right now but waiting for the USB-C to come in stock at the shop.

Ordered it from Kinera’s distributor on AliX. They recced that store to me since they were having issues getting the product on their store. I didn’t get the any adapters, just the 3.5/4.4 standard package

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OK. I’m looking at used/2nd hand iems on ebay roughly £300 mark found 3 Acoustune HS1670SS, fiio FA7s and Magird Tea.

Looking for more details but still some bass and sub base thump
What is the consensus on the best experience for Classic rock/Americana/hip hop

I also like a good build quality. I have big ears actually I’m big 6ft 5inch so size not an issue

TEA 2 ($350) has more mid-bass would be better fit for your library than OG Tea. FA7 is not that good imo; lacks detail with very recessed uppermids and small soundstage. Never heard the 1670SS but I’d take 7 drivers with good tuning (Tea 2) vs 1 driver anyday. If you really want 1670SS tuning just grab the Olina (at $100), much better deal also with great DD.

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I have the Olina, Mele, kai and FD5 I love some dd, I’m looking at what’s available on ebay in UK too much hassle buy to buy from abroad now due to added taxes and poor post/deliveries but thanks for your reply

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Damn, that looks pretty good. (DD + Planar)

My “catch (listen) and release” program is underway.

I’m going to start with Olina, and see if my perceptions about it are merited or if I’m just a hater :grin::grin::grin:

Let’s go!

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Olina deserves its flowers. I have feelings and opinions, but yeah. Olina is damned good

EDIT for First Night Impressions: Without going into full detail because I’m going to keep listening and give these more chances, I started with the stock cable and spinfit cp145’s. The fact that the driver is technically gifted is obvious any way you listen to them, but I did not prefer the shoutiness on the stock cable.

The first thing I noticed, when listening on lower volumes to avoid the harshness is they’re technical and clean, but boring. Then I changed cables and settled on the Aurora stock cable, turned up the volume and then it made sense. Olina is really freaking good. I ran into a problem though, and the best way I can describe it is that I found myself listening to the Olina with the music, and not listening to the music with Olina.

I’m going to see if I can get past that feeling, but regardless I can’t front like this isn’t a really good IEM, cause it’s so good. Just might not be my cup of tea

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To all the Truthear Zero users.
I find the nozzle being really problematic in terms of the design - it is really wide in diameter and very long, making fitting right tips very hard (some are just too shallow (so the lip of the nozzle is going almost all the way to the inlet of the eartip making it unusable like in the pic below). Also, I find also that when the nozzle is inserted shallow the sound is quite shouty, so I was looking for a solution in some deeper insertion. What I ended up with is very is kind of mod to make Zeros work with shorter tips.
You need BGVP/Kbear/Accustone tips 07 with yellow stem or any tips with strong enough stem.
You need another set of tips which are too short for Zeros. In my case those were W01 tips large.

Cut the stem from 07 tips to 2,5-2,6 mm lenght
Put it as a distance on the nozzle of earpiece up until the limit
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Put the final tip. Voila, you can insert the earpiece of your choice much deeper into the canal without collapsing.
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You can do something like that using o-rings.

My Thoughts On Olina:

Take it all with a grain of salt, because I’m not going to do a ton of burn-in, or keep them for weeks to get used to them, or do the modding to them (so I can return them), but with as much as has been said about them, I don’t need that much time to form or re-from opinions.

In stock-form, they’re a really good, technical 1DD set. A little too bright and sharp for my taste, but all of the foundational things people have said about how great Olina is rings true to my ears. I just find them a little too…transparent? maybe. As I said last night, every so often I find myself listening to Olina (and being impressed with how it performs) more than listening to the music. Then when I listen to the music, I like it and it does nothing wrong, but it doesn’t have something extra to me.

It blows away the stuff I had bought from last year that I’ve lived with (DQ6, CRA, ZAS, T3+), and I would be fully willing to say that if I had bought Olina first in my current upgrade path, and been willing to do the mods that would answer a lot of the quibbles I have, I could probably have been done right there. Of the 4 sets I’ve listened to this last month (Aurora, Starsea, Olina, Kai), I really have lost a lot of desire to go climb the price ladder. I’m sure there are better IEMs with better tech and great tuning. But do I really need to spend $300, $500, $1000+ to do 10% better than this? Particularly with Aurora/Starsea/Olina?

But while I’m very impressed with Olina, and I think it deserves it’s love, there IMO there is a bit of overhype happening. I don’t think Olina is BETTER than Aurora. I think they are different, and side grades to each other. The best way I can describe it is I feel like Olina is tuned/manufactured 60% towards it’s technicalities and 40% to fun/emotions, while I’d say Aurora is 60-65% fun and 35-40% technicalities. In listening to them both, I see how much the emotion of listening matters to me, at least. Olina is a technically superior set but Aurora is close enough that the fact that I just LIKE listening to it matters. At their price points it’s easy to rec Olina, but if all things were equal, I’d pick up Aurora more often.

The best compliment that I can give to Olina, is that it is in the ballpark with hybrid sets that SHOULD be more technically capable than a 1DD set. Olina is close enough to Starsea that if you wanted a set that is geared to the technical side and wanted to stay under $100, I wouldn’t blame you at all for that. But having listened to both, I’d take Starsea over Olina, because for the extra $30, Starsea is WAY more versatile. You can flip a switch and Starsea can reproduce music the way stock Olina does, the way I imagine modded Olina does, and can still go more V-shaped and be all about the fun. So where Olina is 60/40 techs to fun, Starsea can go from that to 35/65 techs to fun. The difference that matters to me is that while you can mod Olina to go in different directions and it can give it to you, Starsea was designed to do this and it does it very successfully.

As someone who’s way to want to enjoy music is to find gear that fits me, that I don’t have to alter, and change on that fundamental level. I’m drawn to something like Starsea that has the technicalities Olina brings (Olina has more depth to my ear, but Starsea has more of the height/width combo than anything I’ve listened to) but has something that gets to my soul, that Olina is missing.

Had I heard Olina first and did the mods, I very well may feel differently and flip this whole thing. And having heard Olina, I’m really questioning Seek Real for going to $180 for Airship. In a universe that Olina exists at $100, no wonder the whole IEM hobby is flipped on it’s head. This broke the damned market. And I tip my cap to that. Good on you, Olina. :+1:t5:

EDIT: At some point, I will invest in Olina or Airship because everyone should have a CNT DD in their collection. That tech is SO impressive, that you should have it. Just to be clear.

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Had a comparison session just now for cables. A TRN pure silver vs UM copper M1, with my UM MEXT + Radius Deep Mount + iFi Gryphon. There’s definitely noticable differences but it’s closer to fine-tuning rather than a new experience altogether.

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How does the Aurora compare to the Kai to you?

No real idea why I thought I’d try Final Es on my resin KLs (or why I didn’t try them before) but man am I glad I did. I think it’s down to a combination of slightly narrower bore of the Es, the fit on the KLs positioning the tubes slightly further away and/or a slightly less deep insertion (and maybe not quite getting a 100% proper seal in one ear with CP100s although it really felt like it) but whatever it is seems to have elevated the bass very slightly but enough that it hits a very, very sweet spot for me. I think also maybe lost a touch of something (less bright) off the treble on initial listen but I’ve never thought any more about that since. But what do I know, could just be placebo bullshit mixed in as well - but I don’t think so.

Whatever, wow does this work for my library - lovin it :notes:

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