IEM discussion thread (Part 1)

How would you compare the treble to the pandas?

Iā€™d need to A/B them when my Panda comes home. Been a bit since I listened to it. If your really interested shot me a reminder when the tour is complete.

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Will do! The EST50 has always been an interesting offering to me but I havenā€™t had anything tangible to lean on until recently. It s hard to trust the folks at head fi about this stuff

@Rikudou_Goku sent me an awesome video on a GitHub project to run my own squigs database. Hopefully Iā€™ll get a chance to work on it this weekend and get the IEMs currently in my possession uploaded to it. If anyone wants the text files of the IEMs as I graph them Iā€™ll make them available. Then you can play around with them to compare to other IEMs. Just PM if anyone is interested in one as I get them graphed.

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This may be hocus pocus but I feel like out of EST sets Iā€™ve tried, the graph for treble is much darker looking than how they actually sound, and in my head thatā€™s an ā€œESTā€ thingā€¦ but for all I know itā€™s just a little BS theory based on limited experience.

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The S12 is a beast with incredible performance for heavy music. Competes with tribrids for around $500-$600. In my opinion, it is the best planar out there right now. :boom:
If you want an upgrade then you should get the IE600. They have a similar tuning, but DD - they have a better timbre, better note sharpness, much better resolution, better dynamics, more refined sound with reduced treble extension (the graph shows the opposite), a little better separation and much better instrument placement! Everything about the IE600 is smarter. And letā€™s not forget the sub-bass/mid-bass, which is captivating with just the right amount!

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So far the S12s are certainly my favorite of the bunch and I have tried most of them. I got the Timeless, Hook-X, and S12s all within a few days of each other and the S12s were my pick from those. Since then I have had the OG P1s, the P1 Max, the Diokos, PR1 Pros, Muse HifiPower, the NiceHCK F1, the OG Wu Zetian and Iā€™m sure a couple others in there that Iā€™m forgetting and of those I only kept the OG P1s because theyā€™re just totally unique from the rest of the planar offerings and can do some really special stuff with certain songs. After modding, the S12s really become a different beast altogether. :sunglasses:

Through all that I didnā€™t mention planar tribrids for obvious reasons, but I also let out the best planar I have tried by a healthy margin: the Campfire Audio Supermoons. Theyā€™re really awesome, but also WAY more expensive than the others so I tend to keep them out of that discussion.

I have the HeyDays coming my way soon and Iā€™m definitely interested to see what theyā€™re all about. The graphs I have seen and comments/reviews I have read seem to indicate that they may be a nice balanced planar IEM that will compliment the dynamic v shaped S12s quite well. The HeyDays also seem to fix some of the issues that I had with the OG Wus so they could really turn out to be a nice addition to my collection if they turn out to be something along the lines of what I have imagined. Weā€™ll see soon enough anyways! :crossed_fingers:

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Yes. Maybe the comparison with IE600 is not correct, but they have similar tuning. Otherwise, as an endgame planar, I guess they are Campfire Audio Supermoons. I havenā€™t listened to them because they are expensive and shipping here comes with fees and taxes. I guess itā€™s a beast for metal. :rocket:

Someone already has a video impressions on the Blessing 3 up on youtube. I guess weā€™ll be seeing more in the next few days.

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Iā€™ve always been curious to know how the Trifecta do with metal music? Is there good performance at this very high price with these 3DDs? I have read some negative comments about them. :slightly_smiling_face:

I have only heard them on one occasion for about 15 minutes and Iā€™ll just say that they werenā€™t my cup of tea. That said, there are some folks who really like them and you might get a better answer out of someone who owns a pair or has listened for longer. IIRC, @hit_the_right_note has a pair of Trifectas and really digs them so maybe he can tell you more about their strengths and weaknesses. I didnā€™t get the time to try a bunch of music to try to find their wheelhouse. In the time I did listen it was mostly to some prog/neo-prog I happened to have in the queue on my DAP at the time and they sounded pretty oddly balanced with some areas of the spectrum seemingly over emphasize and others oddly recessed. I definitely wouldnā€™t hang my hat on that being a complete or even necessarily a valid impression though since weā€™re talking about a short session with no tip rolling or any of the other things Iā€™d normally do to really evaluate an IEM so take it with a grain of salt.

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I witness the same thing on my EST50! After having burned them in (Tony Akros recommendation) I feel the sound is super smooth and balanced. Looking at the graph, I donā€™t understand how THAT is what Iā€™m hearing when I compare them to other sets with higher graphed treble regions. Maybe it is hocus pocus, maybe I really enjoy the sound of ESTs, but I think they strike a very balanced, yet fun and musical sound.

On the same topic of the EST50, I also think burn in made the bass come down a bit. Still a hefty boy when needed, but something like my Xenns Top suddenly sound more extreme. Maybe itā€™s due to Xenns larger shelf in the midbass? Out of curiosity @MMag05, how is the UP compared to the EST50 in terms of size? Are they in fact even larger? :dizzy_face: Also thank you for the graphs!

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Itā€™s not getting boring :star_struck:

G-Audio ā€œClaridenā€ and ā€œNairā€

So far i absolutely love the build quality
Swiss precision :ok_hand:t2::switzerland:





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When comparing gets stressfulā€¦ First world problems :smile::see_no_evil:

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Pretty sure EVO wouldnā€™t be my thing, would like to hear KL not sure about the others but the Swiss make dope watches so :man_shrugging:

What is this?!

DonĀ“t know man, I only know that i perceive EVO way different than it graphs. Especially with a neutral/linear source and a silver cableā€¦thatĀ“s the first IEM for me where i can CLEARLY tell a difference with cables/sources

what ist what mister?

Lots of crazy here but man that EVO 1.5k boostā€¦

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Trust me that boost was as shocking to me :scream::rocket:
But I just do not perceive it as thatā€¦
The Grand Maestro is really interesting, hope there will be a demo tour aswell

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