IEM discussion thread (Part 1)

Rude email complaining about 3/5 or 3.5/5 reviews for $50 items, even though I already mentioned that in my ranking, 3/5 is Aria, aka quite good.

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Iā€™m guessing that merely talking about this is also why HFGF is now seen as ā€˜toxicā€™ :man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming:

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Simgot EM6L is coming, price and product page up on Linsoul MSRP $109.99 USD

1DD + 4BA Hybrid Drivers In-ear Earphones

Professional Cross-over Technology
High-precision 3D-printed Resin Housing
Tuned Towards the H-2019 Target Curve
High-Purity Oxygen-Free Copper Silver-Plated Cable

https://www.linsoul.com/collections...CispLwAnQlgNbmVpQtX78mi66R5dYcvWMvG2thFGaAi3o

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Okay, Simgot. Yā€™all can slow down now!

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Truth to be said our internal ā€œcriticā€ on the head-fi being ā€œa hateful and toxic placeā€ may be seen from the outside as ā€œelitistā€ and ā€œhatefulā€ as well :person_shrugging:

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Question to those with databases. How are you tweaking your target for display on your database? Iā€™d like to make some adjustments to mine and have no idea. As of now I just put a bunch of IEMs into REW I liked and averaged/smoothed them. Came really close just needs some adjustments in certain areas.

@nymz @paulwasabii @ToneDeafMonk @Rikudou_Goku @ToneDeafMonk any suggestions you may offer? I know thereā€™s more of you in here with databases yā€™all just came to mind first.

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Calling the comments in here toxic sounds like a milksop. Probably the result of excessive moderating.

Config.js file:

in data folder:
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oh and btw, add my target. :joy:

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Iā€™ve got this part sorry for the confusion. I want to adjust the actual target like to add a little more midbass and a bit of a dip at 4k. Edits would be to the TXT that REW outputs but, thatā€™s a lot of lines. Thought there might be some other website or something available to tweak it and output another file. Iā€™m assuming itā€™s not done through REW or the database backend.

Oh damn forgot about your target. Will add later today.

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ohhh you meant adjusting the target itself, that is not done via squig. I have an old guide here:

(Yes I pretty much have a guide for everything lol.)

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I used what @Rikudou_Goku just linked :slight_smile: Iā€™m just too lazy to update it ahah

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What dongle or amps do you guys use with SoundRhyme SR8 and Neon Pro? I found the NP to do best with Cayin RU6 (have no RU7 atm). Now they became punchier and less sibilant. Cirrus Logic or ESS just wonā€™t do it as well or is it just brain burn-in?

After a while NP shell is causing some discomfort to one ear - similar to SR5. SR8 on the other hand is super comfy. Your ears may vary.

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Good point!!! :thinking: and I agree we could collectively, as a community, do better in sometimes being quicker to take the higher road during disagreements

Butā€¦

We need to be careful of circular arguements and a narrow idea of toxicity - most of us came from/still use Head-fi but also come here. If the idea of HFGF toxicity is due to a narrative of complaints against Head-fi inconsistencies generated from its own ex/existing members who also post on HFGF surely those complaints cannot simply be dismissed as toxic without looking at the actual behaviour under question. To do so would be toxic and so we continue in an accusatory loop ad nauseam.

Toxic cannot just mean any comment we donā€™t like or agree with - it has to have a disproportionate, unjust or unethical intent to harm. If the complaints are not legitimate then we need to police that as a community (which, IMO at least, does seem to happen here pretty fairly) but if they are legitimate then - this becomes simply a case of ā€˜Donā€™t shoot the messenger for delivering the messageā€™ which is a shame.

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Always so true! :+1: And remember tips can make a big difference for comfort too! Can be long or short or wide or narrow or some combination of that can help or hinder the comfort of the IEM so always try tip rolling!

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I generally agree, I love this place and I am in the exact posity you describe - still an user of both portals, while significantly preferring the atmosphere and people on HFGF.
What I meant was just what you mentioned in the first paragraph - to be truly friendly place we should take higher road more often than not. And while I think it happens here most of the time there are cases of us being pricks or square heads as well (sometimes in jokes sometimes not), which may be especially hard for newcomers not knowing people around to get a grasp of.
And constant comments of head fi being sucky place to be also calling specific names of people out there
(shills or not) may be discouraging and triggering some ā€œdefense mechanismā€ of people looking around here coming from head fi :thinking:

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I agree with your overall statement although I do think its fair to call people out for being less than ethical and claiming subjective results as objective fact such as saying ā€œX cable is necessary to listen to IEM Yā€. I donā€™t think its okay to be derogatory or hateful towards anyone though, thats not useful or beneficial to any conversation

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Weā€™re still lucky here compared to Head-Fiā€¦Head-Fiā€™s a business itā€™s forum a tag along, here itā€™s a forum first with mods that have no dog in the fight, so as long as folks are civil to each other, keep things on topic whatā€™s toxic :man_shrugging:t2:

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Iā€™ve been going back and forth with a guy on the discovery thread and I finally just gave up and extended my proverbial hand in a peace offering, recommending some music to him and I invited him to do the same.

Itā€™s totally taxing going back and forth with some folks. I donā€™t believe my opinion is objectively anyoneā€™s truth, but I do feel strongly about a reviewer with a platform being honest. Thatā€™s the core of my statement. Everything else is whatever tbh. Shady companies like Penon can kick rocks as far as Iā€™m concerned but they will always be successful if weā€™re all just being honest here.

Ever since AmericanSpiritā€™s departure from the thread, a shit storm has ensued which obviously wasnā€™t his intention. I feel bad about doubting him back in the day because as it turns out, all of his recent recs have worked out for me. H570 tips, SR5 and 41T. Now with his new project coming out and all the details surrounding it, I think he for one belongs in a place such as HFGFs where itā€™s a lot more lowkey and down to earth. Iā€™m just going to let those other players play in their own space on HeadFi. Iā€™ll still lurk every now and again, but Iā€™m so tired of the arguing over there. Itā€™s crazy.

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I have started hearing a lot about these tips. How do you like them? I have yet to find a tip that sounds as good as the letshuoer gray tips but Im tired of having to dig them out of my ears

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