It’s funny how we strive to find the sound signature that suits us best, but at the same time, it can be refreshingly cool to try out a different taste. Especially if both surprisingly fit you well.
Are there some key areas, which need to be done/balanced properly for IEMs to stay in that comfort zone, with the rest just adding nuance to the overall picture?
I’m glad Ziigaat goes for nice and normal faceplates so I have the power to reject buying their sets and not go broke. I will admit though I’m hella close to buying one lol
Copying this over from a private chat:
the isobaric bass tech is a real step-up from the conventional single DD setups. I’ve only listened around 2h to the ZiiGaat Doscinco and I can already tell these have the best bass replay in my whole collection.
This marketing claim is 100% true:
There’s real progress in this tech. The whole bass replay is bonkers good.
There’s also the ZiiGaat Cinocotres with the same build as the Doscinco which they market as “Studio Tuning”, whatever this means. I haven’t seen a graph of them.
I think the Ziigaat prices are very good for what they offer. They just entered the IEM market so these prices might be a good deal right now. When they rise to fame (which they will) they might raise their prices.
Hahahahaha!
Which set?
I’ve been eyeing any of their midfi priced sets, I’m gonna save up until 11.11 and buy cool stuff then lol
This graph looks sweeeeeeet
lo mismo - stay strong!
Kinera Verdandi vs Noble Audio Kublai Khan
About Kinera Verdandi:
It’s good to see these iems getting appreciation. I adore them so much. From the first listen to last night’s session, I have been mighty impressed by Verdandi. They don’t just look beautiful; they sound equally amazing. These are absolute all-rounders. I love the way it induces musicality and balances the technicality. The headstage is quite large and spacious. It gives enough room for each and every instrument to shine, bringing out details and nuances in a very nice way. I am more surprised by the fact that vocals get quite a lot of room, as if some vocal mode is activated on these iems. The extension on vocals/mids is superbly controlled and detailed. The upper mids don’t have any shoutiness at all. The low end is very solid, with a good texture and depth. There is a good amount of subbass. The bass is not something boomy and floaty in character; rather, it is a well-defined and precise bass. With all this goodness, Verdandi handles every genre equally well.
Comparison:
I have been comparing Verdandi and my favorite all-rounder, Noble Audio Kublai Khan. I have owned a KK for the past 6 months. It’s an impressive iem, loved by almost everyone who has tried it. Since the first listen, I got a hint of a similar sound on Verdandi. It’s really surprising to find that these two sound so similar. I compared them for days, on multiple tracks, different genres, multiple sources, etc., just to be fair and detailed.
Driver Config:
Verdandi: 2 Knowles BA + 2 Sonion EST + 1 DD + 1 Bone Conduction Driver
Kublai Khan: 4 Knowles BA + 1 Piezo Tweeter + 1 DD + 1 Bone Conduction Driver
Sources used for comparison:
Lotoo Paw Gold Touch and Astell&Kern SP3000
Results:
I love the looks on both of these iems. Verdandi gets an edge with the amazing design and subtle colors on the shell. KK is lighter and smaller. In terms of accessories, KK has an edge as you get a massive tank like Nanuk case, which leaves no scope for comparison. The one and only gripe with Verdandi is the small case it comes with.
The bass texture is almost identical on these two. KK may have an edge with extended subbass (just by a very small margin). The similar configuration for the lows is producing similar results. DD driver on KK is 10mm vs. 6mm on Verdandi.
The mids on these two have almost equal sweetness and richness. Mids on Verdandi are a bit more upfront and sweeter (again by a very small margin). The energy in the treble is almost identical too. The upper mids on both are quite identical in terms of control and extension. There is no harshness, peakiness, or shoutiness on either of these iems.
On the technical front, the headstage on Verdandi may have an edge, but we cannot really decide if it’s better than Kublai. Verdandi may have an edge in instrument separation. On a few tracks, I do feel Verdandi sounds a bit more open and spacious.
Verdict:
I cannot decide who the clear winner is. I love Kubali Khan a lot, as it is a great all-rounder which plays everything quite well. Verdandi ($1200) achieving this at a price half of KK ($2500) is just unbelievable. With this sweet price on Verdandi and performance so close to KK, KK does not justify this high price at all. I would not pay twice the amount for KK, even if I had some extra bucks available. I hope this helps.
I’d sell my soul for the Verdandi, it’s so pretty <3
After $800-1000 the law of diminishing returns kicks in full force. Right now, the $250-$400 segment is very interesting.
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$1400 for Glacier though? Come on, Dunu. Be better than that!
I’d have jumped on it if I didn’t have a Vari but 1400 I’d just go for an Elysian or Symphonium like come on man
Anyone got their hands on these TSMR X 10th AE yet? Just did a stupid thing blind-ordered them 
I agree with @heartless, they look ugly as hell. I’m allergic to all that gold hardware on the cable too, but at least it’s not carbon-fiber patterned plastic-wrap. Looking forward to trying them out!
Every price range is heated up these days. I think in every price range some iems kick much above their price. So some of those iems are safe buy. For ex: at 750usd, SoundRhyme SR8, can easily level up with many 1000 usd iems.
Not to be rude, but this stinks of LLM. Pretty clearly from a generative AI and even includes a link to some weirdo AI service at the end. Is it one guy in Norway doing the marketing too? Perhaps Kåre should reconsider his strategy, which is certainly against community guidelines. I’m new here, but just guessing.
Admins/mods, can we get this outta here? @system ?
Seems like a red flag to me for the brand too, but I’ll leave that judgment for everyone to make for themselves.
Edit: thanks to the mods for hiding the original post! Just so others know what to look out for, here’s what the post looked like:
I think that’s the first published graph…thanks for that!
Bass curve look sick.
Thank you he/it’s gone 
