đź”¶ KBear Believe single DD

Ok. I read about it, thread about kbear diamond and moisture issue.
I have some thoughts. I am actually using following “config”:

As I didn’t really like the standard thingy on the filter, I could see a glue underneath and it wasn’t even on both earpieces and I got some OCD so I removed it and I actually liked more treble, added some tape to tame them just a bit and tighten the bass a bit too.

So what I’m thinking is… The original material could be gathering moisture? Maybe a fix is as simple as that? I’m 5 hours in already with Believe in my ears and zero issues.

i’m not sure what causes the issue, i presume it’s the filter because i can fix it by wiping it down with the memory foam tip that comes with the believe but it happens every 20 mins or so for me, which is enough for me to want to return them. i’d imagine using only memory foam would help too which i can’t do. i don’t think i have particularly moist ears either so i’m not sure how other people are dealing with this or i’m just wrong about my liquid ears

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Interesting, I spent whole day today, pretty much 12h with ~1hour break in Believes (but without those filter things, like on the photo above) and no issue whatsoever.

Are you in humid climate maybe? The moisture can come from the outside somehow and just accumulate there? Dunno…

Is your ear wax the wet type? I believe that since most asians have the dry ear wax type, most iems arent built to prevent moisture absorption due to having wet ear wax like most westerners have. Thats why we only see reports on moisture issues when they start to sell internationally.

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it is but there isn’t much + i regularly clean my ears

Unfortunate news, the BElieve is discontinued now. If you want it, better grab it fast from the stores that still got it.

Source:

I seen it, wonder if there’s going to be v2.

I bought a spare pair as there’s still few left on UK amazon. I really like’em and use them surprisingly a lot even though I got few more expensive iems.

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Hello, got them too, after a few hours i can say they are my second ears!
Yes, they need power, 150mw or more, but what a sound… so good.
Got a few iems, FH3 were my favorites (and still are on low powered source) over TinT4 and Starfields.
But these Kbear are just about another level. I nether heard this clarity, especialy on guitars and electric bass (which i discover, finaly).
I don’t have more expensive iems than these, but i have the feeling that they can compete with much more ones.
With them, i just stoped thinking “it could be better”, i just …enjoy music.

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Nice! I love them too :slight_smile:

I found them even better with just a touch of subbass eq.
something like 125Hz low shelf +3 dB <3

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Ok, i will try that, thanks for the advice!
Maybe you could tell me something. I’m using a tempotec idsd plus, and it has 150mw power.
Do you think these Kbear would benefit from a highly powered source?

not sure, maybe(?)
I use them balanced on es100 which is 302 mW (16 Ω, balanced) and I think it’s really good on it.
However, I do think (could be placebo?) it’s even better on jds labs atom :slight_smile:

I might buy a Ifi Hip later, will see.
Speaking about placebo (or not), one thing i noticed is that they sound a bit better, clearer, with a silver plated cable, after a few hours, than with my copper. It was noticeable on bass and sub bass. They were a bit too much boomy with copper, less defined.
They are the first iems from which i hear a difference with cables (i always thought cables didn’t matters).
And, for anyone reading us and planing to buy them, a BTR3K, for example, has really not enough power, it would be a waste.

I got plethora of cables :smiley: but I have to say I never heard difference fortunately (fortunately as then I would be looking for the best sounding cable, spending much money :D)

After a bit more listening Dire Staits, dsd files.
What can i say… maybe “hey, stop spending time and money, just get them, give yourself this gift”.
Edit: non doubt, clearly better than all the ones i have (including fiio Fh3). And even “better” is not the accurate word, not far from perfect i guess.
They are the only ones i have that can make a bass guitar, and everything else , sounding clean and clear!
And they reveal so many things i could not hear before!

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Strange that there are not more threads about them! Are there a kind of secret gem that only a few are keeping? Or do they please only some people with some kind of ears? Some says that they could worth 500$ (comparaison to what they own at this price).

One more thing i noticed, it is about tonality, really natural, just as expected, with all music styles.

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Chris rec’s them to :+1:

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I agree with your opinion :100:% :bangbang:

Here in Germany I pay 137€ for these earphones via Amazon, which is exactly as much as the FiiO FH3 costs and 340€ cheaper than the FiiO FH7 and in my opinion the Kbear Believe wipes the floor with both models in terms of sound quality, naturalness, speed and dynamics.

Personally, I would include the earphone in my top 5, as it has hardly any weaknesses and does not even begin to cause tonal annoyance in any frequency range.

And I think I have a bit of experience with in-ears :wink: :wink:

It is an earphone that I could recommend :100:% because it works out of the box, does not require any additional investment, scales with the quality of the audio equipment, is extremely balanced in terms of tone and is comfortable to wear.

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It’s an amazing set. There were 20 left on a Amazon site I saw Kbear indicate that was th last of em forever. I since heard another company sourced that driver maker. It is pure beryllium as they stated.

One of those rare deals that makers are not fully aware of until feedback comes in and somebody already found your supplier and signed an exclusive deal with. em.

I have a set I use and a plastic wrapped BNIB set. Will be a set i keep forever.

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A couple of new sets still available on UK Ebay…

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=KBEAR+believe+iem&_sacat=0

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