LCD2 classic for 550€ or Sundara for 349€?

When you go up a few dB in the bass they have really nice sub-bass. I have a Schiit Loki that I use for this but any digital EQ will do the same. Once you EQ the bass they hit just as hard as the 2C.

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Hmmm, from my experience the 2 c is a fair bit better preformer in bass, I would say it comes down to preference here vs the sundara. I personally prefer the sundara (the new revision) over the 2c, but for bass I would most likely go 2c as the sundara can’t match the actual performance, only volume when eq’d

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Here in Spain the Sundara is 350€, the Lcd2C is 900, so you will understand I want to make sure which is the right buy for me… I prefer a warmer sound but it’s more than double the price… Without the chance of test them is difficult.

Yeah that’s too much lol. How much is a used lcd 2? (Not classic)

The verum 1 also fits the bill too (the new mk2 looks nice)

I don’t see many for sale, I check Headfi everyday…

In Spain I found a lcd 2 classic

Otherwise, what countries could you potentially buy from, as there is most likely more lcd 2 outside of Spain?

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Anywhere in the European Union, shipping rates are not too expensive and I don’t have to deal with undesired taxes. But buying new the price is the same anywhere ( maybe 50 off here or there). Thanks for the link, I didn’t know that site. The thing is I was trying to buy from someone with a good sales history. I will have to expand my search obviously. Anyway this month’s budget is gone: 230 for the OH10, 260 the Xduoo XD-05 plus 100 in music and 100 in tips and cables lol…

In italy, the LCD2 non classic used (if you can find one) is a bit more expensive than the LCD2 classic, around 700-800€, but it depends on the seller. LCD-X, well kept, around 1.100€.

When you can find US products they come very expensive, like the JDS LABS is not less than 150€. Forget about Geshelli and others, because nobody that I know of is importing this stuff here.

Also: what is the Verum mkII? Is it better than 1? I can’t find anything on the website.

edit: found the mkii in the official thread

Just curious what’s the difference sound wise between the LCD2, LCD2 Classic and the X as there seems to be quite a price variation between the models?

LCD2 classic: wide, dark, energetic, and bassy

LCD 2: warmer, wider, more detailed, relaxed, refined

LCD X: most detail forward, less wide (surprisingly so), most treble extension, most even signature

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Thanks for that :smiley: …it think it would be the X for me then :+1:

The LCD-2 with fazors has a smaller soundstage, but better treble extension and linearity in the mids to treble. Much more detail than the LCD-2C. These also accentuate the 1 KHz peak much more, which to some can be shouty. The cups are made of different woods and sometimes aluminum. These have lambskin leather pads and can come with the older padded headband or the newer headband with comfort strap.

The LCD-2C is a reissue/reimagined version of the original LCD-2 with no fazors. The cups are a crystallized carbon composite material. This results in a wider soundstage, but there is much more uneven treble which results in some interesting peaks. Even though it measures much darker than the Fazor LCD-2, it can sound more exciting at times because of it. These use the protein leather pads and only come with the newer headband with comfort strap.

LCD-X is like the LCD-2 Fazor, but much more detailed in the upper mids and treble. These also use the lambskin leather pads or protein leather pads. The most recent version uses the same cup materials as the LCD-2C. These can come with the older padded headband or the newer headband with comfort strap.

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Sold already.

You also may want to try hifishark.com. it’s like the travelocity of audio equipment, you can setup custom searches for items from all over the world. Pretty neat site.

My favorite audeze is the LCD 2.2 non fazor. But now that I have the LCD 24 I think I might prefer that lol

Ive heard a lot about that 24. very highly rated

I like the LCD-3 Rev 2.1 I heard a while back. Sounded very smooth and the bass was amazing.

Has anyone tried inserting these 3D printed fazors into their LCD-2C’s? I’m curious, but not willing to pay $50 for something that may not work well.

I installed these fazor wave guides in my 2020 LCD2C and the results were staggering. The 2C’s famous “Wall of sound” became slightly smaller but much more defined, with considerably better vocals, treble, and slightly less bloom on the bass but more precise and tighter bass to my ears. The soundstage improved as well, with better centre definition and general instrument placement. These things actually change the sound of the 2C significantly, and I’m glad I got them as now I can listen to them with the guides in or out as my mood dictates. If I want the more well defined sound of the LCD2 I leave them in, and if I want the huge, smooth sound of the LCD2C I take them out. It’s close to the best of both worlds without buying another headphone, whooo hoooo!!!