ASUS giveaway going on right now
https://wn.nr/X39p86
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I agree but while i get the analogy its a little different in this case, Car manufacturers control in a more rigorous manner than the production of their product (for various reasons), computer hardware on the other hand is somewhat different. In a lot of cases the boards are designed by a certain company like Asus, but assembled by a 3rd party, in this case I’m assuming its Foxconn which assembled the board in an improper manner.
While it’s still a total fuck up on Asus’s part its no where near the dumb-fuck move made by NZXT and Gigabyte who both had made design flaws regardless of how well they were made and made shitty choices on both the design and handling of the situation. Asus’s releaized the error and did what any proper company should do, Recall - its the best you can do in a shitty situation, while they don’t deserve a “golden star”, acting in a respectable manner is something that can be noted
P.S car manufactures do have major fuckups, but unlike PC hardware its harder to tell right away and their lawyers are pretty fucking good. I worked at an insurance company for 3 years and have seen a few claim where it was “the car’s fault”
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Just finished it and wanted to show off
Its not perfect but pretty damn close 
CPU: 5800X
RAM:Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB
Cooling: EK 360 Basic
GPU: RTX 2070 super Asus dual OC
PSU: Corsair RM850x
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow (with a bunch of Lian LI SL fans)
Storage:
- 1TB NVME WD Black (Gen 4)
- 512GB NVME Samsung Evo Plus
- 2 X 1TB WD blue SSD
- 2 X 6TB WD red HDD
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As ordered…
I think I’m gonna put this one here.
Someone needs to help Kyle out. He’s running his Stellia off of his motherboard. 
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someone get this man a tube, STAT!
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I mean, the guy also has an M11 and is content with it, so more power to him. I’m impressed someone jumped from a DT880 non-600Ohm to a Stellia and landed so much where it wanted.
I’m really getting the picture on how these foam sheet style filters are just terrible.
Decided it was time to pull it off my Versa H15 case. It’s a pain to work in, but it fit the bill for what I needed when I got it. Size and cost where my two big concerns at the time about 3 years ago if I’m recalling correctly.
Sadly, new hardware overall is hard to come by at best. I’m tempted to get something like a MB311L, still on the more budget oriented range, don’t have the oddball look of an mATX case in a full ATX compatable case… I don’t know. Anyone have any suggestions? If you need a full parts list of what I have, I can provide that.
What kind of budget are you wanting to stay in, and are you wanting a mATX case?
I’d rather not go over $100, but I could stretch to $130. I am considering upgrading the cooler.
My configuration as is :
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rG7v8J
Well, none of the reviewers that I follow have done anything with the CM MB311L, so I can’t say anything about it definitively. My observations looking at pics of it, it looks you’ll have to pull the entire front panel off to clean dust off of it. Which is fine, as long as there isn’t a secondary filter behind the mesh panel, which there doesn’t seem to be. It’s just going to wear on the clips holding the front panel on over time. There also aren’t any rubber grommets for helping hide cables, and cable management in the back is kinda lacking from what I can see. But, It’s a more budget case.
If you don’t care about seeing your components, I’d probably recommend the Fractal Meshify C, non-window. It’s about the same price and if you take out the redundant front filter and add the fans you already have then it’s a solid airflow case.
But if you want to stick with a mATX case, then the MB311L may be your best bet. There aren’t exactly a lot of great choices in that form factor, since it’s been all but abandoned by the market.
I understand budget cases being the way they are. My grandparents have asked me to help them put together something for my grandmother, so I may pass on my current case to them.
I’d like to be able to look at my components, so the window would be preferred.
The I’m not a big fan of the geometric shapes in the meshify series. For whatever unexplainable reason, I’ve always found them off-putting.
It’s unfortunate that that segment of the market is so neglected, but I understand it’s not really that popular.
I’d almost be tempted to get something bigger and use it when Ryzen 6000 comes out, dealing with the really weird look of an mATX board in a larger case.
If that’s the case, then you could always look at the Phanteks P300/P400 line or the Lian-Li Lancool series. Corsair also has the 4000D. There was also that Montech case that GN liked. I think it was the X3 Mesh?
If you want to go real small the Cooler master NR200 is a solid case, its a little hard to build in if you don’t plan ahead but its very minimalistic. As far as ATX goes the 4000D airflow is great I just built one (go up in the thread a bit you’ll see it), it looks great, its not that big but still has plenty of room for hardware, and of course the performance in terms of cooling is amazing.
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This is where I run into finding something I like and is readily available is incredibly difficult
The Lancool 2 mesh has been in my radar for a while. Unfortunately, it’s not readily avaliable right now, and most that do have it priced closer to $200.
The 215… I’d tear out the 200mm fans and replace them with something smaller. Not a big fan of the GIANT fans, and it isn’t designed to let the fans do their thing… unobstructed.
The minimalist approach to the IO is more then likely what would kill this for me.
It was the X3 Mesh, though I think it was more of a “it gets a pass” then a “we liked this”. A ton of corners where cut, they used a bunch of the budget with pretty meh fans, and had to include the use of molex (a connector I will die on the hill of believing needs to die).
Paul did look at it when he went to CES 2020
GN did mention it in their overview of the cases from the same show. So far as I know, none of the big channels looked at it beyond CES 2020
The smaller problem to me would be the minimilism. The significantly bigger one: it won’t fit my motherboard. Not without going out and buying a whole new motherboard.
I might give the Lian Li O11 AIR Mini a shot, see how things go.
My issue with the O11 mini (aside from an inflated price in my region) is the lack of support for a 360 Rad, if you are running a more intense CPU a 360 Rad helps (like a 12th gen Intel cheap or a higher-end AMD chip) a lot to tone it down, also from the reviews I’ve seen it has some issues with its airflow due to the size of the holes
If one front USB port makes such a big difference why not just use a hub? mount it under the desk or somewhere else more concealed, IO should not be a concern when buying a case
From my understanding, that was fixed
When I first started, yeah, I looked at Hardware Canucks for case reviews… Unfortunately, due to some of the choices that have been made, I’m not as comfortable with giving them influence with my buying decision. I’m much more inclined to give that to GN.
I’m running a 1600. Not the AF, the older 14nm version. It runs 4.1Ghz at 3.33V. If I push the voltage and some better cooling, I can do 4.125Ghz. I did it when I was up in Maine. Middle of winter, opened the window and had a cheap desk fan blowing cold air across the room at the case. With the same cooler that’s it in now, it ran AIDA64 for about 3 hours without crashing if I recall. Still got pretty warm, but it didn’t crash. Stopped it after that because of the way the cooling in the building was handled (the dorm was an old cold war era air force barracks built in the early 60s of I recall correctly), and I didn’t feel like being reasonable for freezing pipes. I know I have a golden sample, and I’m not really planning on going 6950x or whatever crazy shit they release at the bleeding edge.
Because unless I’m forced, I’m not about the dongle life. It is not for me. Besides…
My desk has two drawers that span the width of the desk. There’s nowhere to “hide” the damn thing. FYI, the legs are flush with the edges of the desktop.
Then why does any reviewer ever give it any attention?
It’s available on Newegg right now for $110. So if there have been stock and price issues and you like it, now would be a good time to jump on it.
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Because its part of the product, the same reason that every audio reviewer has to talk about the cable, you can always swap it out but you want to know what you are getting in the box, it should not be a deal-breaker.
A “dongle life” referees to people with laptops not with desktops, the whole problem with the USB C only laptops (practically the MacBooks) is that it forced you to use a dongle and take it everywhere, a case doesn’t force you to use a dongle it just a box for you motherboard and you arent taking it anywhere