I OC to get to unlock the potentiala cpu has for maximum value gaing even iif iuts just that little bit more performance its worth it cause I really dont lose anything by overclocking.
im really lookingg forward to how good the lower end renoirs are I’m planning to build a VR build for the living room and seeing how cheap wwe can get 4 cores 8 threads now renoir is looking promising
you are losing some things by overclocking. money in your pocket and shortening the CPU’s lifespan. I know that’s a real thing as I bought a Pentium 4 that was known for a good oc, etc. I bought it used and knowingly…and it crapped out a little bit later. started having issues…gremlins, unexplained errors. I’m sure it was degradation caused by the higher voltage pumped through it for so long to get those speeds.
the money issue is complex…especially if it’s your parents paying the bills.
the lifespan issue less so, as it’s really only going to become an issue you have to deal with if you are running insane voltages to get that stable speed. if you do what a lot do…find the highest stable and then take a step or two back, then it likely will only be a problem for the sucker that buys it when you upgrade. 
actually…talking about OC, it will be interesting to see what Intel does with that BLK OC Asrock / MSI (not sure if Asus has done it yet) have unlocked in their BIOS for non K Intel CPU’s.
Ive always oc’d all my PUs though I do upgrade pretty often/ and Ive always had good luck I never really go for anything insane .I usually aim for something more reasonable within a reasonable voltage to maintain it’s life span.
Honestly i dont bother overclocking but it still has its place with gaining some perf and that insane heat is from Intel chips, ryzens dont get that hot for a normal OC. I oc my I5-6600k still using now to around 4.7ghz and it was running that for around 4 years and still fine. I run 4.4ghz now still an OC and still running good. Yes I think I hit the lottery on that silicon but still the OC helped and still helps with certain things I do. Granted CPUs are way more powerfull now but free perf is free perf depending on how far u take it.
here’s a bigger picture perspective of overclocking. with cooling upgraded from what you get stock, your thermals are so much better that they sustain the different turbo functions so that they generally function as long as you need it and don’t suffer from thermal throttling and dropping the clock down.
that essentially means that you will not see much of a performance difference between your all core OC vs what the turbo profiles can provide in but a few niche situations, like video editing. and that’s only if you’re using pro software that actually multi-threads on the CPU if the task isn’t already offloaded to the GPU.
I apologize for coming across as a downer. do it for fun…just know it’s not needed anymore, not really.
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oh I understand that in real world applications I dont see much of a difference as at higher resolutions my cpu doesnt do too much of the work anyway and is mostly my gpu but as you said I also do it for fun. I like seeing my unigine heaven scores or cinebench scores go up as I play with the frequencies
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I mean in highly cpu intencive things or where ur cpu is a bottleneck OC will help. Sometimes a little sometimes alot it also depends high big ur OC is. Where my OC was nearly running 1ghz higher than Turbo i did see improvements. I get wat ur saying but its still nice and why not xD. But yeah it is mainly fun now or for at least most people dont need it.
That is a chunky heat sponge.
I refuse to call heatspreaders with minimal fins a heatsink. 
Fair enough. This is literally a unsophisticated brute force approach to heat dissipation
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I prefer a utilitarian looking heat spreader, none of that crazy shaped / angled stuff you see now a days.
Yep, DRAM is a bitch. Have to cycle (refresh) the cell and recharge (or not) the capacitor…
For comparison, SRAM:
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IF, as in big if, true (WCCF Tech, so shovel of salt), then Nvidia Ampere may turn into a meme of “hot and loud”.
TSMC is at least a year ahead of Samsung (which is why TSMC has lead times of about 8 months on small batches, and Nvidia needs ALL the capacity). Samsung 8nm EUV is cheap(er), and underwhelming (= not as mature as one would expect).
My 2 cents: Temper your expectations, RTX 3000-series will be warm
no wonder the stock coolers are so beefy. I cant wait for the monsters that are the evga SC cards or even the kingpin models
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new motherboard installed I managed a OC of .1 ghz stable over stock boost clocks which is about what I expected.
no real reason to upgrade from that either. 8 cores / 16 threads will last a long long time now!
This AMD CPU is $70 off if anyone is looking at an AMD build right now:
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