I still keep my 670 FTW Sig2 around because I loved the way that card looked. It’s dead tho 
Some pre-RGB Beauty:
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Not that SLI has been particularly useful for a long time.
That 3070 might be the first serious GPU I buy in 5 years. 500$ msrp for highend performance is actually decent.
True for gaming, for content creation, 3D and the like, all the semi-professionals are in for an expensive time.
The frog has been boiled and served with fries.
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Is that a metaphor for how Nvidia has been steadily raising prices? :))
Unfortunately some people will spend whatever it takes to get the latest and greatest. Guess the 2000 series backfired on them.
Maybe if AMD actually moves something in the GPU spaces we will once again buy flagships for 300$.
The gaming industry in hardware and software has doing a slow boil on everything.
Remember when paid horse armor was an outrage?
Then DLC was okay, Seasonpass was an outrage.
The 10-series was too good price/performance, 20-series was underwhelming as it gets.
30-series looks to be a step in between (the only available numbers look fishy as fuck and that “reviewer” will find himself in a furnace for it sooner or later).
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I feel like “old man yells at cloud” when I see microtransactions and half assed games released followed by 20 DLCs, or some of the stuff LoL/Fortine and the likes are pushing out, and people just eat it up.
You’re supposed to pay for a thing, that thing is a full experience.
If thing is asking for more money, thing better deliver MORE than the initial full experience.
If thing is free to start or very cheap, it better not nickel and dime you for every petty thing.
These guys have forgotten it’s an entertainment industry. If it’s not fun, I’m out.
Wouldn’t say it was too good, it was good, but if you already had a mid/high 900 series, a 1000 was just being a “baller”. Then 2000 was a fail and most people kept their 900/1000 series.
I game at 2k with a 970. No major complaints. It could be better, but 500$ is my absolute maximum limit and that thing better destroy the FPS.
Was hoping for Vega/Radeon 7 to change the game but it was mostly a “we still exist” move.
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That’s how things tend to work. You price shit at what you think people will pay. If that means you keep pushing a little higher to test those limits, then so be it.
I wouldn’t say that. They weren’t certain about yields from TSMC, they where introducing a brand new tech (letting them bring real time ray tracing to the consumer space), and if I recall correctly, the crypto craze was still going on or was fading out. When the 5700(X) brought more of a fight then what Nvidia may have expected, they started over crowding their product stack, doubling down on “RTX” as a marketing point, despite the lack of adoption from developers.
While I am hoping that AMD will have something to put up some kind of a fight (beyond basically a chihuahua trying to attack a grizzly), there isn’t any way we’re gonna see flagships for $300 again. Inflation and the market has seen to that. People have already proven they are willing to pay $1200+ for top tier.
Personally, having to pay for a particular item is still stupid, and so are season passes. With a DLC, it starts being a “okay, what am I actually getting out of this, and how much is it genuinely gonna cost me?” If it actually adds a significant amount to the game, and isn’t gonna cost too much more, sure. If it’s skins, then you can fuck right the hell off.
For example, the CIV 6 scenario packs, or the ones that add other civilizations, or the Dawnguard and Dragonborn DLCs for Skyrim that added additional weapons(I love my crossbow), skill tree, or an entirely different island to explore. However, the DLC for NieR:Automata… Yeah, you have a couple extra side quests, but beyond that, it’s a different outfit for each character. Fuck off.
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Agree we will never see 300$ flagships again, but a return to common sense is welcome. Which will never happen while only one company is playing the game.
I don’t think the number of people willing to pay for 1000$+ cards is enough to cover the R&D and marketing going into thse things, or even the ones willing to pay 350$ for the “low end” versions like a 2060. The rx570 and 580 still exists, and for most is good enough.
Maybe it works for smartphones when the carriers help you soften the blow with 3 year plans, but for a GPU… explaining a pair of new Audeze’s makes more sense than a GPU to the wife/mom/dad.
The TSMC yields and developer adoption means squat to the regular consumer. They want FPS per dollar.
Most old cards are good enough for 1080p high FPS, and if you want to go higher the monitors get really expensive really fast.
What I mean is that you’re either very heavily investing in the GPU and a Monitor, or you’re sticking to the trusty 1080p card. Like the rx580, 1660/ti, or whatever you can find used in your budget.
I think crypto was dead/dying by the time 2000 series came out. Maybe that also influenced the prices they launched with, and seeing how Nvidia is like the Apple of GPUs, they probably set the prices before they even built engineering samples.
Anyone take a look at facebook market place lately people trying to dump their 2080 TI’s for like a $1000 +?
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That’s the issue I tend to see when looking into used hardware. People seem convinced their shit is still worth roughly new
I think they know what it’s worth, they are just trying to capitalise on the ignorant for their personal mistakes
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Doesn’t stop them from getting pissy from someone who knows what it’s worth doesn’t wanna pay for their greed.
Isn’t that their prerogative?
If they can sell for the price they’re listing for that’s what it’s worth (by definition).
Plenty of Buyers get pissy when you won’t accept their low ball offer.
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REAl talk Ive been hard core debating with myself how worth getting the 3080 instead of the 3070 . going over specs and expected performance and new tech being introduced and having to upgrade my PSU but my head keeps asking me “why do I even need an upgrade? all I play is valorant and league anyway” which is basically true I keep telling myself this is for cyber punk but realistically speaking Im just gonna play games that dont need the power for the most part lol
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I’m still using a EVGA FTW3 1080ti and honestly I don’t have any issues running any game on high settings @ 1440p… When I start not enjoying the experience is when I will upgrade. With that said I don’t play competitive or shooters much these days so I don’t need hella frames. most single player games I play I’m totally content with 60-100 FPS.
Although if Cyberpunk runs like ass on my rig I will undoubtedly say fuck it and get one of those 3080’s 
I just sopoiled myself with a 144 anything lower than 100 it becomes an issue personally unless I play on controller unfortunately cyber punk is a fps. if it was third person I would be totally content with 60 fps on controller
I was thinking of just getting the new xbox bundled with Cyberpunk whenever that comes out, play it with mouse/keyboard, then just move the console to the bedroom and forget about ever buying a GPU again.
That would work. But that frame rate ain’t for me