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If it will be available, cheaper than 3080 then it will be a hit. though they could aim for the top since 3090 is only 10-15% faster than 3080 and with 80CUs it could be doable. Kinda rooting for AMD. I like underdogs :smiley:


Nice news from Asus and it’s nice to know they are doing something. Probably like many other?

As far as i see, it’s only the overclocking issue?
“Normal” use would not pop the issue up.

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Except when the card boosts and the silicon quality is bad, then you may even crash at stock.

They might fix the firmware also, that they boost less. More stable.
Of course few cards will always break but still minor amount of em all.

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Gonna wait til cyberpunk comes out to see how my card can handle 4k ultra and maybe with ray tracing. To decide if I should upgrade to the 3090

No one should upgrade till all the competition is out. This is exactly wat happens people jump on the band wagon and shit happens. xD

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why can’t tech companies seem to get anything right?

an example…this new Brix SFFpc from Gigabyte is almost perfect, but for the fact they’re using quad core mobile CPU’s.

why not drop a hexa or octo core Ryzen mobile APU? then it’s perfect!

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Saving money and not testing enough.

For the last part of “hexa or octo cores”. Why make something right now when you make it later?
Companies make a lot more income if they make product that get’s little better like versions 1, 2,1 and 2,2, 2,3 etc. No need to make something now or take the next step for something that is in the 13.1 region.

I would bet there are secured “future plans” for something like those and plenty more.

Definetly part of the problem. All the fancy Agile Software Development methods can include testing and QA, except nobody thought to extend the time devs get to work on products…

When there is no deadline (= release date), nothing gets finished turning the business into a laboratory.

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Yeah, but when your deadlines are tight and everything you’re worried about is yelling “first”, you end up with shit products.

That being said, Steve from GN talked about how Nvidia held down drivers and manufacturers only got fulls drivers at the same time as them, what would give them about 2 week for validation and stress testing. That’s insane! If you find any issues at all, chances are you already shipped your first batch, or is about to.

The board partners should held their design and test more, that’s a fact. But when you consider Nvidia is also a player in the card market, that already had 1 week advantage on them, this shows Nvidia made a really bad move.

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I mean its an entry level pc. It probably has been developed before the good ryzen apus were available. And tbh ryzen availability is still low thus not seeing many laptops with them.

I agree why not put a desktop chip there but maybe heat and power concerns, so with mobile quad core is pretty much status quo.

Playing devils advocate here

so Nvidia just announced they’re delaying the 3070 launch until the end of October. they want to stockpile more inventory for a smoother launch. alas, the cynic in me says they’re playing with capacitors…

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This^^^^

Remember water blocks released for these at launch where probabaly also not tested on real cards. Either mock cards or blueprints were used. They didnt get their cards either.

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capacitors werent the cause of the faults tho, it was simply drivers causing it for windows as they worked perfectly fine in windows. It could of been why but it wasnt and got blown way out of per portion. But hey the launch still fucking sucked XD

did you not read all the articles that pinpointed the issue to capacitors? in response, Nvidia tweaked the drivers so the issues with the capacitors was circumvented. essentially the cap configuration couldn’t handle the power the GPU needed at higher clock speeds.

Yes but it wasnt the issue as even ones with the better capacitors did it too. And if that was the issue why no problem in linux, the new driver didnt make it to linux. Windows only. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhyCdraz54s

Still unknown if it was just the Windows driver, one reviewer found the stability to be better on Linux. IMO it doesn’t matter if its a hardware, firmware, or driver issue. The most important thing is for them to find the issue, fix it, and learn from this trainwreck launch so this doesn’t happen again.

No matter the reason, if this means more products to meet the demand and a more stable launch, I’m fine with it. I just hope this is not just Nvidia trying to disrupt AMD Navi launch, cause them this is really stupid and childish.

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Guys I have a question, let’s say I will buy a video card with 3 8 pin slots. Does a PSU with 4 6+2 PCIe cables can make that video card work or not?

Edit: Just wanted to make sure since I know it is a dumb question.

Its also about power usage as well how beefh is your psu? But it should work yes. Im guessing u play on buying 3000, I really would suggest u waot for rdna 2 :expressionless:

I mean I am just saying a scenario that I which I won’t do and yes it’s a good idea to wait for the new AMD cards as well. But at least you answered the question so I guess that’s much clearer. I mean not only I should get an upgrade for my GPU but I think my PSU needs some changing as well.