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if reports are accurate…we should start seeing inventory at MSRP, etc, starting end of February.

CPU’s are scarce because AMD focused most of their manufacturing quota on the new console processors…that’ll be moving over to their Ryzen 5000 stack now.

GPU’s should start to show up once GDDR6/X starts having availability again. I’m not sure why there was a shortage on GDDR6/X as the new consoles are using the older GDDR5…could just be the hiccup COVID caused when all manufacturing shut down and had so much catching up to do when it started to spin back up.

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Going to try to custom loop but wait times and proce may bring me to an AIO like the artic liquid.

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they’ve been really ramping up cards have been much easier to get in the last few days here in canada at least. the tracking posts stay in stock for at least a few minutes now so much easier to hop on a drop especially wiith 3070 and 3080. 3060ti is still iffy as so much interest around the card due to how it performs compared to 3070 so it’s gone quick. but there was just a overall silicone shortage I believe. now I’m just waiting to be able to buy 3050ti now for my lil bro which should be pretty soon

Funny, over here the 3060TI was much easier to get than the 3070 or 3080. Though at the moment all 3060TI’s seem to be gone to. I got one a day or two after launch for €515 while the MSRP is €419, the card I got would’ve never been an MSRP card though so I guess I overpayed €50 or so (that’s the same as I’ve overpayed for my previous 2060 because I had to have it sooner rather than later).

Hard or soft tubing?

Hard tubes

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Fuck, it has been a month and turns out the reason why I am not receiving any replacement yet is because my RTX 3080 is like a limited edition or some shit, explains the reason why the price that my family got it from is a bit higher than its designated price. Well if there are still no stocks of it for a replacement, all I can do is to resort to a refund and I buy an another model that has more availability than that one, and it is pretty much their fault providing a video card that has a factory defect.

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Darn. Well i assume you have your old card still. Maybe getting a refund with a little extra money will net the same or similar card and some cash for something else. The down time is a killer though

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That is absolutely fantastic!

Well this sucks. Let’s hope the other manufacturers don’t follow

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Nvidia realy managed to make $350 the new “budget” segment.

I wonder how much cheaper parts could be if all the RGB crap got axed.

Im really hoping the 3050ti’s to be $250

Recent TechRadar rumor has it the 3060 sits at 450, I would not get my hopes for reasonably priced cards up.

that makes no sense cause the 3060ti sits at $400

I was hoping for the 3060 to sit at $350 while 3050ti sits at $300

That seems to be the case. I decided to do a little investigating and seems like there’s a shortage for raw materials in general + foundries are running at full capacity, since demand rose quickly after the first wave.

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it’s totally understandable. manufacturing shut down across the whole supply line, from the smallest of bits to the biggest of assembly lines. and it wasn’t just a momentary shutdown…they were out of order for at least 4 months, so when they started to spin up again, they had a 4 month backlog of orders they didn’t fill, plus the load of new business and the supply chain was in chaos.

in the electronics world, a lot of redesign had to happen on the go as parts used for designs they tested and certified were no longer available, meaning they had to go through the whole R&D rigamaroll again. I think I mentioned it here before, but it was very apparent in surveillance. I swear, more than half of Hikvision products went EoL!

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Not only that, when the whole thing started and China was mostly closed down, we in Europe, America and other countries that were not affected were still able to produce until X point in time when every country became more and more affected and it was decided to shut everything down.

It was not necessarily a bad thing because after the recovery, China relatively quickly put everything back on half power so that they could supply the other countries and after the lockdown the warehouse was full again.

What annoys me more is that the prices have increased extremely and it is currently unattractive to buy something.
The manufacturers justify it with the regulations that have arisen, but it is more about eradicating the damage that has arisen at the expense of the consumer.

And besides, the scalpers have opened up a new market instead of buying up trainers.
I have been thinking about a self-made PC for a long time, but it is unattractive.
When I put something together, I end up with a PC that cracked the benchmark 3-4 years ago or a bit older.
I might as well stick with my Acer G7200 and hope it survives the crisis.:grin:

If anything is still attractive, it’s the second-hand market.
There, the demand or resale value tends to be what you paid when you bought a new one 1-2 years ago, provided that the overclocking was not exaggerated.

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That is nothing new, and also not uncommon.
When the Xbox One and PS4 launched, chip shortage was the same.

The problem is not the rise in demand, but the face it went to Black Friday volume and stayed up there since. Both Nvidia and AMD stated they underestimated demand.

In 2016, Nvidia declared the previous high-end price of $350 to be midrange.

And now we have a trifecta of statements. Retailers say the AIBs mark up prices, AIBs say margins have never been this low, Nvidia does not say anything (as is common for them).

I am not sure if AMD is in a position to blindly follow Nvidias example. As long as nobody from either team (Nvidia or AMD) leaks some documents, we (= consumers) will not know who the liar is.