Yea. Putting the wifi chips in (that don’t suck) is quite expensive. Unless you absolutely need wifi I would highly recommend going wired. Cheaper, faster, and more reliable. Buy a 100ft Cat7 cable and you’ll probably be set with only $20 at most on top of the non-wifi sticker price.
If you really need the wifi and are on a super tight budget I would still just invest in the X570 board and downgrade the ram a bit.
It seems to be more expensive in amazon cause it’s out of stock. I found it on Best Buy for cheaper . I’m currently wipping out the finances calculator to make the best purchase. Appreciate all the help so far.
So the best thing about the MSI X570 is that you can spend as much or as little as you want on it. I’m running an RX 5700XT in my PCIE 4.0 slot along with an M.2 500gb ssd and 36 gigs of g.skill ram (4x8gb). Also has enough fan outs for the disgusting amount of fans I have. The board will stay relevant for at least the next 3-4 years or more, so you shouldn’t ‘need’ an upgrade for a while.
Even if you don’t utilize the fancy PCIE 4.0 and M.2 shit, the mobo is solid and easy to build on.
Only downside of MSI is the RGB / controller software when in Windows. BIOS is ridiculously easy to use though.
When are you looking to upgrade? The B550 motherboards should be out next month. The X570 is a bit overkill for a 3600 and that money could go to a higher end B-series board that’ll be more reliable. To be honest a B450 is fine, rumours are that AMD are likely to move to a new socket in the next couple of years anyway.
Umm, well tbh I was hoping to order everything this weekend.
Unless you really want WiFi I would get a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max instead. It has better VRMs and better cooling for those VRMs. It’s a better board for overall stability and if you plan on OCing, there isn’t a better board in the B450 line up.
Or the X570 Tomahawk.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WKdrxr/msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi
This one, if you can find it.
Gamers Nexus has a great video on AMD boards.
The tomahawks are supposed to be great. I don’t feel comfortable recommending only cause I don’t own one. My experience with the MSI Gaming X570 board has been pretty superb compared to my previous experiences.
The higher end B boards / B450 are solid, but I’d still go with the X570 if significant hardware upgrades in the next year or two are desired. For solid reliability? B450 or whatever’s newest in that line.
The issue right now is officially, AMD is refusing for support for the next gen Ryzen processors to be added to 300 or 400 series boards. The X570 Tomahawk came out after the video Buildzoid did for GN (mentioned by @Fractal). Referencing the measurements from Hardware Unboxed, The X570 Tomahawk measures on par with the top end boards, like the Godlike.
I mean, that is reasonable from the company’s (and the consumer’s) perspective. Supporting the crossover would be ridiculously hard. Unfair to ask of them. New gen CPUs with new gen chipsets/boards is pretty sensible imo.
Imma still vote for X570 all day. Even if a newer chipset comes out soon, X570 will be relevant for at least a few years. Worth a bit more expense for now.
I think it’s to do with the power delivery, pretty sure someone mentioned it with Zen 2 architecture as well. That’s why some older AM4 boards weren’t supported for Ryzen 3.
Their claim in this case has nothing to do with the chipsets or the generation, but more to deal with limits on the BIOS on the board.
Not according to the Blog post from AMD.
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2020/05/07/the-exciting-future-of-amd-socket-am4
Something the also claimed of 370/350s. “Support” comes in various flavours.
I’m sorry? When and where…?
Yes. That would work.
I would throw some money at an aftermarket CPU cooler, just to reduce noise a bit.
As for built in Wifi: Don’t (unless mini-ITX machine). Just get a PCIe add-in cart, possibly with an antenna on a cable.
When you buy a motherboard with M.2 slots, use an M.2 SSD
As of 2020, PCIe Gen4 is only needed when running two very high-end GPUs in a rendering/data crunching situation or for massive PCIe SSD storage.
My suggestion:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HtJ8wh
AFAIK it is a problem with BIOS size and available storage in BIOS chips on older boards.
8MB seemed plenty at the time of Zen 1 (Ryzen 1xxx-series)
Most X570 boards have 16MB BIOS chips